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    pbacot
    last edited by 26 Nov 2017, 20:04

    Some sort of educational version might be good, or licensing to school or class that has an expiration so it is harder to pirate... It may be some teachers would like to use it to familiarize students with construction methods, besides the modelling aspect.

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      juju
      last edited by 29 Nov 2017, 06:15

      Is there some way you can incorporate a method for exporting/importing settings (user defined layers for example) in your various extensions? I'm migrating to a new machine and this seems like a useful feature, even though it may be one that will probably not be used a lot.

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        medeek
        last edited by 29 Nov 2017, 18:19

        Version 2.1.0 - 11.28.2017

        • Added Northeast hip set trusses.
        • Enabled advanced options for northeast hip sets.
        • Added energy/raised heels for northeast hip set (3 variants: wedge, slider and vertical w/ strut).
        • Added the option for open vs. closed end jacks.
        • Added the option for a drop in purlin frame.
        • Enabled a graphical user interface for Truss Set selection.

        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su319_800.jpg

        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su320_800.jpg

        I only plan on adding the midwest and california variants if requested.

        I don't want to toot my own horn but these truss sets are quite complex, I'm still amazed that I've been able to finally write the code to generate all of this geometry. At first it is a bit overwhelming but when you break it down into its components and slowly grind each one out sooner or later it emerges.

        I still have not added plates to the truss hip sets due to the complexity and the fact that it is low on the priority list for now. Complex roof are currently my biggest hurdle and I am still battling with how to best approach these from a systematic standpoint and then dive into the details once the overall layout is configured.

        Until I have complex roofs figured out the plugin is only about halfway there, but at least I've got my foot in the door and I'm making progress.

        When you consider that you can create one of these hip truss sets literally in seconds with all of the sheathing, cladding, fascia, gutters etc... and it is all geometrically correct, it is pretty cool. Manually it would take me well over an hour to try and generate this level of detail without the plugin, there is something to be said for automation.

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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          medeek
          last edited by 29 Nov 2017, 18:22

          @juju said:

          Is there some way you can incorporate a method for exporting/importing settings (user defined layers for example) in your various extensions? I'm migrating to a new machine and this seems like a useful feature, even though it may be one that will probably not be used a lot.

          I don't know how to do it on a Mac but if your running Windows you can probably pull the settings directly from the registry and then insert them back in on the new machine.

          I will give this some thought.

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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            medeek
            last edited by 29 Nov 2017, 19:28

            The reason I am taking so long with complex rafter and truss roofs is the possible permutations is making things very challenging.

            For example take the truss roof below:

            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su321_800.jpg

            I'm assuming there are no interior bearing walls and we want to clearspan the entire building outline. I can get the basic roof and truss layout by creating to hip truss sets as primitives but that is where it then becomes very interesting.

            As you can see there are two mid-building girder trusses that then catch the mono pitch sub-girders which are each supporting two common trusses. Next to the sub-girders is a small valley set (half valley) that fills in the roof behind the sub-girders.

            The largest span is 36', which is reasonable. This appears to be the simplest way to truss this roof out but is probably not the only solution. A good truss technician could tell me how close I am to the optimal solution.

            Granted the complex rafter roof is not IMHO as hard a problem but it also has similar difficulties and issues.

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            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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              medeek
              last edited by 30 Nov 2017, 00:09

              C'est merveilleux, merci beaucoup.

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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                pilou
                last edited by 30 Nov 2017, 09:51

                I will make corrections on the post above! 😉

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                  medeek
                  last edited by 30 Nov 2017, 16:14

                  French translation of the Roof Truss Menu:

                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su322_800.jpg

                  I will roll a sub revision so everyone can try it out.

                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                  design.medeek.com

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                    pilou
                    last edited by 30 Nov 2017, 18:21

                    It's a beginning! 😄

                    Have you a system of translation ?
                    Or I must edit some files ?

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
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                      medeek
                      last edited by 30 Nov 2017, 19:25

                      I am still compiling the list of words and phrases, there are a lot of menus, too many.

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                        pilou
                        last edited by 30 Nov 2017, 23:00

                        That is the problem of very detailed program! 😉

                        Ps I can make an adpatation of this page in French! 😉
                        Only for the fun, (It's my hobby) ☀

                        So that will be a cool training for the future Panel's Truss Translation!

                        Yet made Twillight , Podium , FlexTools , Groboto (collector), ZBrush , SimLab Composer ,
                        3DCoat (Manual), PolyBrush , Qubicle2 , SUbD , Profil Builder2 , Moi3D , GifCam , Monolith (manual), [url=http://visualizervf.weebly.com:26zyq7ev][u:26zyq7ev]Visualizer[/u:26zyq7ev][/url:26zyq7ev], [url=http://visualizervf.weebly.com:26zyq7ev][u:26zyq7ev]SolveSpace[/u:26zyq7ev][/url:26zyq7ev] etc...and so many UI, Manuals, curiosities etc...
                        I'm frightened by this list! 💚

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                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                          medeek
                          last edited by 2 Dec 2017, 05:18

                          Wow, that is pretty amazing.

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                            pilou
                            last edited by 2 Dec 2017, 12:20

                            Look at your Private messages! 😉

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                              medeek
                              last edited by 4 Dec 2017, 05:35

                              As the number of advanced options have increased (common trusses) the user input menu has slowly grown in size until it is so large that it often does not fit the screen of many laptops and smaller screens.

                              This problem has been well documented by a number of users for quite some time.

                              This weekend I spent some time putting together a new HTML menu for advanced options for roof trusses:

                              http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su323_800.jpg

                              I still need to work out the metric version and also all of the language translations but otherwise I think it is almost ready to roll out.

                              As you mouse over each of the options a 320x240 image will display as shown, hopefully clarifying the meaning or usage of each parameter/option.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                                pilou
                                last edited by 4 Dec 2017, 08:59

                                Help Image is a very very good idea! 👍
                                Very very first draft as you can see the "?" ! 😉

                                Veuillez choisir les options avancées pour les fermes de toiture
                                Roof and Wall Sheathing = Revêtement de Toiture et Revêtement Mural
                                Roof Sheathing = Revêtement de Toiture
                                Roof Sheating Thickness = Épaisseur du Revêtement de Toiture
                                Gable Wall Sheathing = Revêtement Mural du Pignon

                                sub-fascia = Sous-fascia ?
                                sub-fascia type = Type de Sous-fascia ?
                                sub-fascia width = Largeur de Sous-fascia ?
                                sub-fascia depth = Profondeur de Sous-fascia ?

                                rakeboard = ?
                                gable overhang = Porte-à-faux du Pignon
                                rake board width = Largeur ?
                                rake board depth = Profondeur ?

                                outloockers = Débords ?
                                outlooker spacing = Espacement du Débord ?
                                outlooker size = Taille du Débord ?
                                structural outlookers = Débord Structurel ?
                                outlooker @ roof peak = Débord @ Pointe de Toit ?

                                heel blocking = Blocage du Talon ?
                                heel block orientation = Orientation du Talon ?

                                cladding = Revêtement
                                roof cladding = Revêtement de Toiture
                                hip and ridge cap = Capuchon de Croupe et de Faîtage ?
                                gable wall cladding = Revêtement Mural du Pignon

                                additional options = Options Supplémentaires
                                soffit cut = Coupe de Soffite ?
                                roof returns = Retours de Toit
                                roof battens = Lattes de toit
                                ceiling gypsum = Gypse de Plafond
                                gutters = Gouttières

                                ...
                                dropped top chord = Panne Supérieure Lancée ?

                                Frenchy Pilou
                                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                My Little site :)

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                                  pilou
                                  last edited by 4 Dec 2017, 10:20

                                  First glance! 😄 (must be refined)

                                  Veuillez sélectionner l'un des types de fermes suivants:

                                  Commun en W - Tunnel - Mono-Pente - Ciseaux - Empennage - Double-Pente
                                  Corde d'Arc (?) - Arceau de Barrique (?) - Polynésien - Bombé - Cathédrale - Plateau (?)
                                  Simple Ciseau - Simple Cathédrale - Shed - Voûte En Berceau (?) - Tunnel à la Mansart - Caisson
                                  Treillis - Cathédrale Symétrique - Studio en Berceau - Double Inversé - Corde Parallèle - Charpente

                                  Remarque: Les types de ferme Shed, Arceau de barrique, Studio en Berceau et Double Inversé sont en cours de développement et ne sont pas encore disponibles.

                                  ferme.jpg

                                  Frenchy Pilou
                                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                  My Little site :)

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                                    medeek
                                    last edited by 4 Dec 2017, 16:02

                                    Version 2.1.1 - 12.04.2017

                                    • Enabled a graphical user interface for advanced options of roof trusses.

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                      pilou
                                      last edited by 5 Dec 2017, 01:09

                                      new refinement! 😄

                                      • Commun ( Classique en w) - Grenier( Habitable) - Mono-Pente - Ciseaux( Entrait Retroussé)- Empennage ( à coyeau) Double-Pente ( Asymétrique)
                                      • Corde d'Arc (Arc) - Arceau de Barrique (Arc triangulé) - Polynésien ( tropicale)- Bombé ( entrait retroussé variante ou Polonceau ) - Cathédrale - Plateau(Double ferme articulée)
                                      • Simple Ciseau - Simple Cathédrale - Clergé (Contemporaine ) - Voûte En Berceau (En voute ) - Grenier Surélevé ( à la Mansart)- Caisson ( à entrait décalé)
                                      • Plat ( poutre treillis )- Cathédrale Symétrique ( treillis à deux pentes) - Studio en Berceau ( à entrait décalé) - Double Inversé ( double articulée) - Corde Parallèle - Charpente

                                      https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/255775ferme03.jpg

                                      https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/647757ferme02.jpg

                                      https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/484019ferme04.jpg

                                      https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/576001ferme01.jpg

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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                                        medeek
                                        last edited by 7 Dec 2017, 17:05

                                        I am trying to understand how the Mac .plist file works. Is it similar to the registry? I have a client that is having some trouble with registering (inputting their serial into the global settings) and having their system save the serial number.

                                        Unfortunately, I don't own a Mac so I am not much help. Does anyone use the plugin on a Mac and have had similar problems with saving the serial number? Where does one go to manually edit the .plist file and enter in the serial number manually.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                          glro
                                          last edited by 7 Dec 2017, 19:02

                                          @medeek said:

                                          I am trying to understand how the Mac .plist file works. Is it similar to the registry? I have a client that is having some trouble with registering (inputting their serial into the global settings) and having their system save the serial number.

                                          Unfortunately, I don't own a Mac so I am not much help. Does anyone use the plugin on a Mac and have had similar problems with saving the serial number? Where does one go to manually edit the .plist file and enter in the serial number manually.

                                          not only that
                                          i had the same questions
                                          so i bought a mac: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Mini
                                          sheap, you can use windows mouse, keyboard and screen
                                          there are a few things to modify in the ruby code por windows, to make it work on a mac

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