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    • medeekM 離線
      medeek
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      I've created a SketchUp model tonight using the truss and foundation plugins to further examine a structural design I am working on.

      http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su152_800.jpg

      View and download model here:

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      I think I will probably add a TJI roof that allows one to use two glulam beams with cantilevered rafters as shown in this model, this configuration seems to be fairly popular.

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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      • facerF 離線
        facer
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        Medeek,

        What function do the Bracket - Fixings shown in attached jpeg serve?

        I assume they are Simpson Strong-Tie HDU2-SDS2.5 (as noted in your Skp model - entity info)
        but why so far from the bottom plate - bolts to be added later or in situ?

        Good work, keep them coming 😄


        Brackets purpose?

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        • medeekM 離線
          medeek
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          The HDU5 at the corner is primarily for the lower shearwall, the HDU4 about 24" inboard is for the the portal frame load path in the wall above, notice the straps between floors that complete the load path. I have not shown the SB5/8X24 anchor bolts that will be placed in the forms before the concrete is poured. I showed the holdowns about 1-1/2" above the sill plate, actual height will be dictated by the extension of the anchor bolts above the sill plate and is not really critical. The holdowns could just as well sit directly on the bottom plate.

          What I've shown in this window wall is a site built wood moment frame, what I have not shown is the required nailing patterns. I also forgot to add in the pad footings for the PSL posts, and possibly a few more A35 clips and straps, but overall it is mostly complete. I am still working on the lateral analysis of the total structure which may change the sizing of the straps and holdowns slightly. This is the typical work I do during my day job but its fun to throw together a 3D model to really look at how it all goes together.

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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          • FrederikF 離線
            Frederik
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            After having updated the plugin, I now get the following error, when I open SU... 😞

            Error Loading File C:/Users/kim/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2016/SketchUp/Plugins/medeek_truss_ext_trial/medeek_load.rb
            Error: #<NameError: undefined local variable or method pluginserial' for Medeek_Engineering_Inc_Extensions::MedeekTrussPluginModuleLoader:Module> C:/Users/kim/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2016/SketchUp/Plugins/medeek_truss_ext_trial/medeek_load.rb:205:in module:MedeekTrussPluginModuleLoader'
            C:/Users/kim/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2016/SketchUp/Plugins/medeek_truss_ext_trial/medeek_load.rb:22:in <module:Medeek_Engineering_Inc_Extensions>' C:/Users/kim/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2016/SketchUp/Plugins/medeek_truss_ext_trial/medeek_load.rb:20:in <top (required)>'
            C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2016/Tools/extensions.rb:197:in require' C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2016/Tools/extensions.rb:197:in load'
            C:/Users/kim/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2016/SketchUp/Plugins/medeek_truss_ext_trial.rb:39:in register_extension' C:/Users/kim/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2016/SketchUp/Plugins/medeek_truss_ext_trial.rb:39:in module:MedeekTrussPluginLoader'
            C:/Users/kim/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2016/SketchUp/Plugins/medeek_truss_ext_trial.rb:23:in <module:Medeek_Engineering_Inc_Extensions>' C:/Users/kim/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2016/SketchUp/Plugins/medeek_truss_ext_trial.rb:22:in <top (required)>'

            Cheers
            Kim Frederik

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            • medeekM 離線
              medeek
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              I forgot to remove a "#" sign when I removed some debugging code in the trial version. Re-download and install again (Version 1.6.8). Sorry for breaking it.

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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              • FrederikF 離線
                Frederik
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                No problem...
                Glad you've solved the issue... 👍

                Cheers
                Kim Frederik

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                • FrederikF 離線
                  Frederik
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                  Hhhmmm... Although I've downloaded ver 1.6.8, installed it, re-started SU, I still have this issue... ❓

                  Cheers
                  Kim Frederik

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                  • medeekM 離線
                    medeek
                    最後由 編輯

                    Manually remove the plugin folder and files and then do a clean install, let me know if that doesn't fix it.

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                    • FrederikF 離線
                      Frederik
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                      I've removed the folder "medeek_truss_ext_trial" from
                      C:\Users\kim\AppData\Roaming\SketchUp\SketchUp 2016\SketchUp\Plugins
                      As well as the file "medeek_truss_ext_trial.rb"

                      Then I opened SU and didn't get any errors...
                      I opened the Extension Store and installed the plugin again, but after a re-start, I get the exact same issue...

                      It does say that it's ver. 1.6.8, but are you sure that it's the correct file in the Extension store...??

                      Cheers
                      Kim Frederik

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                      • medeekM 離線
                        medeek
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                        Your right I may have forgotten to upload the correct version to the pluginstore, ack. Try downloading the plugin again reinstall, so sorry for the mess up.

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                        • FrederikF 離線
                          Frederik
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                          It's working now... 👍

                          Cheers
                          Kim Frederik

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                          • medeekM 離線
                            medeek
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                            Again I apologize for the delay in development, first it was my new job and then I re-injured my rotator cuff (old injury from 10 years ago) which has made sitting at my desk for prolonged periods very difficult.

                            This morning I sat down and thought about hip sets since I've had some recent requests for the their addition to the plugin. What I show below is a fairly standard step down hip set with, with the midwest variant shown at one corner and the standard variant at the other corner.

                            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su153_800.jpg

                            View model here:

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                            Note, I have not shown all of the internal webs for clarity, those will be generated automatically and not be user definable.

                            Please review carefully and let me know if anything looks amiss. I will also be adding in other variants of the hip set but I figured I would start with these two.

                            A stepdown hip set provides a girder truss, with a hip jack truss running from the corners up the ridge until they meet the hip girder.

                            The Midwest hip set also provides a girder truss, with hip trusses that step up to the peak.
                            However in a Midwest hip set, you run a rafter (dropped) up from the corner of the front wall to the hip girder.
                            All the bottom chords of the end jacks run to the hip girder, allowing for better attachment of the drywall on the ceiling.

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                            • medeekM 離線
                              medeek
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                              This is the Northeast Hip Set variant:

                              http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su154_800.jpg

                              View model here:

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                              In a northeast hip set, you will find a short jack truss starting at the corner and running up the hip ridge. This hip jack stops at a sub-girder. All end jack bottom chords run to the hip girder, allowing for better attachment of the drywall on the ceiling. Hip cats must be field cut and installed between the hip trusses. Works well with dual-pitched hip systems.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                              • medeekM 離線
                                medeek
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                                This is the California Hip Set:

                                http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su155_800.jpg

                                View model here:

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                                The problem I am having with this variant is the conflict between the 2x6 hip rafter and the top chords of the step down hip trusses.

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                • medeekM 離線
                                  medeek
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                                  The revised california hip set with a stacked hip rafter:

                                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su156_800.jpg

                                  View model here:

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                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                  • medeekM 離線
                                    medeek
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                                    A stepdown or midwest hip set with a drop-in purlin frame:

                                    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su157_800.jpg

                                    View model here:

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                                    There is some minor conflicts at the top chord of the frame with the hip trusses and at the peak but I don't think it is worth worrying about.

                                    I have found that for manual editing of members the "trim" function is becoming a very valuable tool, it has already saved me a lot of time when adjusting webs and chords as I adjust or drop some of the hip truss top chords. I strongly suggest that everyone upgrade to the latest version (1.6.8) to take advantage of the improved trim function. I now need to get the extend function working.

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                    • medeekM 離線
                                      medeek
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                                      A smaller (16' span) standard terminal hip set attached to the main roof with girder truss and valley set.

                                      http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su158_800.jpg

                                      View model here:

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                                      The addition of the hip sets into the plugin will allow the creation of more complex hip roofs with minimal manual intervention.

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                      • medeekM 離線
                                        medeek
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                                        I now just need to hunker down and get some heavy coding done to make all of these hip set variants a reality. Once I have one the rest will fall out fairly easily since the overall logic for all the variants are quite similar. I've spent the last 2-3 days reviewing some texts and shop drawings to make sure I've got things more or less correct with my models/templates. So far no one has complained to loudly about any of the configurations so I think it is now time to proceed and add the hip sets into the plugin.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                        • medeekM 離線
                                          medeek
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                                          Version 1.6.9 - 09.14.2016

                                          • Added some enhancements and wireframe (temporary) graphics to the valley set function.
                                          • Fixed bug in the trim function.
                                          • Fixed bug in the roof battens option.

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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                                          • medeekM 離線
                                            medeek
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                                            If its not one thing its another. I finally get myself situation so that I can get back to some daily coding and then I injure my shoulder (bursitis) and put myself out of commission. I've almost got the first truss hip set ready for release. I think everyone will be excited to see what it can do.

                                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                                            design.medeek.com

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