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    • D Offline
      db11
      last edited by

      And the string of TIG hits just keeps on coming!

      I always draw on Layer0, but I have had issues with raw geometry ending up on other layers... usually after exploding a group without paying attention to the layer inheritance, or after changing the current layer in order to delete another layer into it — and then forgetting to reset the default layer before resuming drawing.

      This will help to eliminate the untidy consequences of those occasional —usually late night— attention lapses.

      Thanks for another useful plugin TIG. The Layers from/to List plugins will also see a lot of use and are equally appreciated.

      Doug

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      • JQLJ Offline
        JQL
        last edited by

        @cotty said:

        I only see one problem with this plugin:
        those who do understand what it does might not need it, and those who do not understand will probably not install it (unless we force them to) 😄

        Great idea, thank you!

        LOL! So true!

        I tell you what... I will never install it myself, but I will force it's installation on all the people I tutor Sketchup to.

        Does it work automatically with models imported from 3D Warehouse?

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          Here's v2.0 http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_LayerWatcher
          It now adds a Context-Menu item if the current Selection contains
          Geometry [Edges and Faces] not assigned to "Layer0", it is called -
          "Selected-Geometry-To-Layer0" - it reassigns that Geometry's Layer[s] to be
          "Layer0". The Layers of other Entities in the Selection - e.g. Groups -
          are ignored, only Geometry in the Selection is changed.
          However, if the Selection contains Groups or Components, AND they in turn
          contain Geometry that is not assigned to "Layer0", then you are then prompted
          Yes|No to fix that... These changes mine down into any nested containers too...
          These Layer changes are one-step undo-able.

          TIG

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          • JClementsJ Offline
            JClements
            last edited by

            "But at least this fixes the exploding Group/Component issue where its Geometry inherits the container's Layer !"

            That is the 5-star attribute of this plugin. Thank you TIG!

            John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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            • cmeedC Offline
              cmeed
              last edited by

              Hi Tig, - Great Plugin again. there is a clash with ACT (advanced camera tech) that you and people should be aware of. the ACT automatically creates layers and then geometry on them. This leads to your pop up box repeating itself. you have to switch SU off using windows Task Manager.
              i disabled tig-layerwatcher in plugins manager - restarted and ACT works fine.
              c

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                @cmeed said:

                Hi Tig, - Great Plugin again. there is a clash with ACT (advanced camera tech) that you and people should be aware of. the ACT automatically creates layers and then geometry on them. This leads to your pop up box repeating itself. you have to switch SU off using windows Task Manager.
                i disabled tig-layerwatcher in plugins manager - restarted and ACT works fine.
                c
                Thank you for the report.
                Of course ACT should never need to change the active layer from Layer0, or to put geometry on a layer that is not Layer0 - so I am perplexed...
                Investigating...
                EDIT:

                Oddly when the ACT tool adds a layer [it adds two] it makes it current and then immediately reverts to the existing layer anyway, so it's pretty dumb !
                It is possible to add a layer and use it, without ever making it current.
                ACT adds camera objects etc onto those newly made layers...
                I am thinking of reporting its silliness to the authors...
                I can easily trap for this idiocy, but it would not be expected if ACT acted sensibly.

                TIG

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Here's v3.0 http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_LayerWatcher It now allows tools [like ACT] to set a layer active that is NOT Layer0 - without the warning message.
                  It also allows non-native tools to add geometry onto layers other than Layer0.
                  Native tools are still covered...

                  TIG

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                  • cmeedC Offline
                    cmeed
                    last edited by

                    As always your work and speed is sublime !

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                    • cmeedC Offline
                      cmeed
                      last edited by

                      As always your work and speed is sublime !
                      If only ACT was updated - it's been the same pain in the a*se for so long now. We don't need those extra layers! I've never needed those camera volumes it produces and you can't turn them off. They keep coming back and It's slow slow slow. Grrrr.
                      Grumble grumble.

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                      • N Offline
                        numerobis
                        last edited by

                        Great little plugin for fixing this idiotic exploding behavior! Thanks!

                        And yes... ACT should be fixed too - this large geometry is a joke that makes it unusable!

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                        • D Offline
                          DOD3R
                          last edited by

                          Hello All,
                          Allow me to just share my idea on how i deal with this in my workflow.
                          I probably as everybody have the habit to save usually at least once in ten minutes, or usually when finishing some steps like component,floor.
                          To address the problem of geometry on different layer than 0 I made similar habit of running clean up plugin from ThomThom. I did set up two hotkeys for two kind of settings. First is applicable for solid like geometries with smoothing and deleting edges and the other is practically just geometry on layer 0.

                          have a great day everybody.

                          T.

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            Here's v4.0
                            http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_LayerWatcher
                            Now trapped for obscure errors from some other plugins' operations affecting its observers etc.
                            It has also been made into an 'Extension'.

                            TIG

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by

                              Here's v5.0
                              http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_LayerWatcher
                              It has minor tweaks and is also 'future-proofed'.

                              TIG

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                Here's v6.0.
                                http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_LayerWatcher
                                It has better reporting of geometry assignment to Layer0 on completion.
                                It also has a few background security tweaks too.

                                TIG

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Here's v7.0 http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_LayerWatcher Its code loading regime has been adjusted in an attempt to avoid an occasional glitch with v2016.

                                  TIG

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                                  • facerF Offline
                                    facer
                                    last edited by

                                    TIG,
                                    Thank you for the "clever plugin".

                                    I can not find a reference to the plugin other than in
                                    SketchUcation Plugins Manager and in the "Plugins" folder.

                                    How would I "easily" check on which version I am running in the future?

                                    All the best for the New Year!


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                                    • Dave RD Offline
                                      Dave R
                                      last edited by

                                      @facer said:

                                      TIG,
                                      Thank you for the "clever plugin".

                                      I can not find a reference to the plugin other than in
                                      SketchUcation Plugins Manager and in the "Plugins" folder.

                                      How would I "easily" check on which version I am running in the future?

                                      All the best for the New Year!

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                                      • facerF Offline
                                        facer
                                        last edited by

                                        Thank you Dave R,
                                        I did not see the plugin's summary at the bottom last time I looked:
                                        Version 7.0
                                        Creator: TIG
                                        Copyright: TIG (c) 2015

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          Here's v8.0 http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_LayerWatcher It fixes a reported glitch - where the Layer Observer [spotting the resetting of the current-layer away from Layer0] was not getting transferred across when a new SKP was opened. Now fixed. 😄

                                          TIG

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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            Here's v9.0 http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_LayerWatcher
                                            Read the revised Usage notes on its PluginStore page...

                                            BugSplats on MACs when immediately undoing Make Group / Component now avoided.

                                            Note that it no longer reassigns the layers of natively Exploded Containers' Geometry [because an unsolvable undo-stack overflow problem when > ~200 pieces of geometry are moved into their new context, because then undo of the explode becomes impossible],

                                            BUT there is a new context-menu item "Explode-To-Layer0" - it is only available if the selected Containers are not on Layer0 - it then explodes the Containers and reassigns Layer0 to the resultant Geometry: this explode is then once again properly one-step undo-able, irrespective of the amount of geometry getting moved and reassigned to Layer0.

                                            Otherwise its processes and tools are generally as in v8.0...

                                            TIG

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