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    • N Offline
      numerobis
      last edited by

      Great little plugin for fixing this idiotic exploding behavior! Thanks!

      And yes... ACT should be fixed too - this large geometry is a joke that makes it unusable!

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      • D Offline
        DOD3R
        last edited by

        Hello All,
        Allow me to just share my idea on how i deal with this in my workflow.
        I probably as everybody have the habit to save usually at least once in ten minutes, or usually when finishing some steps like component,floor.
        To address the problem of geometry on different layer than 0 I made similar habit of running clean up plugin from ThomThom. I did set up two hotkeys for two kind of settings. First is applicable for solid like geometries with smoothing and deleting edges and the other is practically just geometry on layer 0.

        have a great day everybody.

        T.

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          Here's v4.0
          http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_LayerWatcher
          Now trapped for obscure errors from some other plugins' operations affecting its observers etc.
          It has also been made into an 'Extension'.

          TIG

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            Here's v5.0
            http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_LayerWatcher
            It has minor tweaks and is also 'future-proofed'.

            TIG

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              Here's v6.0.
              http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_LayerWatcher
              It has better reporting of geometry assignment to Layer0 on completion.
              It also has a few background security tweaks too.

              TIG

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                Here's v7.0 http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_LayerWatcher Its code loading regime has been adjusted in an attempt to avoid an occasional glitch with v2016.

                TIG

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                • facerF Offline
                  facer
                  last edited by

                  TIG,
                  Thank you for the "clever plugin".

                  I can not find a reference to the plugin other than in
                  SketchUcation Plugins Manager and in the "Plugins" folder.

                  How would I "easily" check on which version I am running in the future?

                  All the best for the New Year!


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                  • Dave RD Offline
                    Dave R
                    last edited by

                    @facer said:

                    TIG,
                    Thank you for the "clever plugin".

                    I can not find a reference to the plugin other than in
                    SketchUcation Plugins Manager and in the "Plugins" folder.

                    How would I "easily" check on which version I am running in the future?

                    All the best for the New Year!

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                    • facerF Offline
                      facer
                      last edited by

                      Thank you Dave R,
                      I did not see the plugin's summary at the bottom last time I looked:
                      Version 7.0
                      Creator: TIG
                      Copyright: TIG (c) 2015

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Here's v8.0 http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_LayerWatcher It fixes a reported glitch - where the Layer Observer [spotting the resetting of the current-layer away from Layer0] was not getting transferred across when a new SKP was opened. Now fixed. 😄

                        TIG

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          Here's v9.0 http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_LayerWatcher
                          Read the revised Usage notes on its PluginStore page...

                          BugSplats on MACs when immediately undoing Make Group / Component now avoided.

                          Note that it no longer reassigns the layers of natively Exploded Containers' Geometry [because an unsolvable undo-stack overflow problem when > ~200 pieces of geometry are moved into their new context, because then undo of the explode becomes impossible],

                          BUT there is a new context-menu item "Explode-To-Layer0" - it is only available if the selected Containers are not on Layer0 - it then explodes the Containers and reassigns Layer0 to the resultant Geometry: this explode is then once again properly one-step undo-able, irrespective of the amount of geometry getting moved and reassigned to Layer0.

                          Otherwise its processes and tools are generally as in v8.0...

                          TIG

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                          • D Offline
                            dan19936
                            last edited by

                            TIG - thank you for this plugin! I've assigned the Explode-To-Layer0 command to my keyboard shortcut, the only problem is that since this is a context sensitive command, groups on layer0 won't explode with my shortcut. The solution is to also use [Plugin] Layer Zero Fixup Tools by slbaumgartner and assign that to your shortcut.

                            http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=375498#p375498

                            Dan

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by

                              You don't need to use "Explode to Layer0" if the container is assigned "Layer0" - therefore it doesn't appear in the context-menu in that case, you can just explode it and its contents will go onto Layer0 anyway...
                              The purpose of this alternative exploder is that if the container is on Layer1 and you do a native Explode the geometry that was inside it on Layer0 arrives on Layer1, this alternative way always explodes onto Layer0.

                              However I can see times when you might want to use the "Explode to Layer0" on a number of containers, some of which are already assigned Layer0 and they will they get skipped.
                              I'll adjust the code and update...

                              TIG

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                Here's v9.1 http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_LayerWatcher "Explode-To-Layer0" now works on all Containers, even those already assigned Layer0.
                                Its final reporting dialog is also enhanced.

                                TIG

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                                • R Offline
                                  rv1974
                                  last edited by

                                  TIG, sorry if I'm requesting in wrong thread..
                                  Would it be possible to make a tiny script that would silently (via shortcut) repeat the last layer assignment?
                                  For example I move some geometry to layer 'entourage' then in the future I select other objects, hit shortcut key and they would go to previously assigned 'entourage'.
                                  Thank you for attention

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    @rv1974 said:

                                    TIG, sorry if I'm requesting in wrong thread..
                                    Would it be possible to make a tiny script that would silently (via shortcut) repeat the last layer assignment?
                                    For example I move some geometry to layer 'entourage' then in the future I select other objects, hit shortcut key and they would go to previously assigned 'entourage'.
                                    Thank you for attention
                                    It'd be very convoluted, with observers finding changed entities, but even then I can't see how you spot it's been given a new layer, you only know that it has somehow 'changed' but not how it was before that ?
                                    So I think the answer is, 'No.' 😞

                                    TIG

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                                    • R Offline
                                      rv1974
                                      last edited by

                                      another option: a small non-modal floating window with one combobox containg layer list to choose from (even hidden ones!) and one button 'assign' (to selected)?

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                                      • TIGT Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        Having slept on it, the answer is now, 'maybe'...

                                        Imagine this [new] tool...
                                        It has TWO menu entries:

                                        • 'Reassign Layer'
                                        • 'Repeat Reassign Layer'
                                          They can each have their own shortcuts set up...

                                        The first tool reassigns Selected Containers to a Layer picked from a dropdown list in a dialog.

                                        The second tool is the same, but this time does it not ask for you to chose a Layer from a dialog - it remembers the last chosen Layer name - unless of course the tool has not been used this session or the previous Layer no longer exists - in which case it does ask you to choose...

                                        PS: I'll PM you an example...

                                        TIG

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                                        • mariochaM Offline
                                          mariocha
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi TiG, indeed a great piece of code this is.

                                          I had repeated SU crashes on selecting a component and then changing my mind and picking another one in the Component pane before dropping the first one.
                                          Disabled all my plugins and finally tracked the bug down to LayerWatcher (v9.1 or maybe before). It being the only one left in the Plugins folder (but for the SU ones).
                                          No crash when LayerWatcher is removed.
                                          SU 2016, OS El Capitan.
                                          It can easily be reproduced.
                                          Has anybody else experienced that ?

                                          %(#008000)[Mario C.
                                          Every rule has exceptions, but some.]

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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            Do you have the latest version of the Extension.
                                            It was changed following similar reports...
                                            It's now at v9.1
                                            http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_LayerWatcher
                                            If you still have problems please report back...

                                            TIG

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