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    • S ShepherdS Offline
      S Shepherd
      last edited by

      Oh ye of little faith. Just google it

      Shep

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      • Dave RD Offline
        Dave R
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        Cool.

        @pcmoor said:

        @krisidious said:

        What I wonder is how it could actually be used in real life... Doesn't seem possible.

        True....Its not possible to join them

        There are similar looking joints that can be assembled.

        Scott beat me to it.

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        • KrisidiousK Offline
          Krisidious
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          I did and most of what I saw looked faked... Others were built in a way that they could be angled together first. I'd love to see video of it being done.

          By: Kristoff Rand
          Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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          • Dave RD Offline
            Dave R
            last edited by

            Kris, twisted dovetails like Scott's can and are made in real wood. Whether or not they look faked, they can be cut to work.

            From Fine Woodworking Magazine #61
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            • jeff hammondJ Offline
              jeff hammond
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              i guess if the pins&tails line up at some point (in the middle somewhere) then it can slide together? if the angles are right?

              dotdotdot

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              • S ShepherdS Offline
                S Shepherd
                last edited by

                See if this helps. The first image I posted is the starting position.


                Twisted.gif

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                • jeff hammondJ Offline
                  jeff hammond
                  last edited by

                  @s shepherd said:

                  The first image I posted is the starting position.

                  oops, i missed that bit.. was thinking the coincident point would have to be in the middle somewhere. the animation clears it up though.
                  πŸ‘

                  dotdotdot

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                  • KrisidiousK Offline
                    Krisidious
                    last edited by

                    Nice animation Shep...

                    This is one of the ones that looked faked.

                    http://www.richardjonesfurniture.com/Tables-Chairs/boire-coffee-table/boire-table-3-600.jpg

                    By: Kristoff Rand
                    Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                    • KrisidiousK Offline
                      Krisidious
                      last edited by

                      So the twist has to be identical on the inside front as it is on the backside top for it to work?

                      By: Kristoff Rand
                      Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                      • Dave RD Offline
                        Dave R
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                        @krisidious said:

                        Nice animation Shep...

                        This is one of the ones that looked faked.

                        http://www.richardjonesfurniture.com/Tables-Chairs/boire-coffee-table/boire-table-3-600.jpg

                        What makes it look fake?

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                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
                          jeff hammond
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                          @dave r said:

                          What makes it look fake?

                          because it looks like there's not a way to assemble/dissemble it.. that's what the joint is for anyway, right?
                          like-- "hey bud, why don't you try to figure that one out hehheh"..
                          or is it inherently stronger than a traditional dovetail?

                          dotdotdot

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                          • S ShepherdS Offline
                            S Shepherd
                            last edited by

                            @krisidious said:

                            Nice animation Shep...

                            This is one of the ones that looked faked.

                            http://www.richardjonesfurniture.com/Tables-Chairs/boire-coffee-table/boire-table-3-600.jpg

                            One thing that's different about this is the miter on the end pair. I think it's done like this.


                            twisted miter.PNG

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                            • KrisidiousK Offline
                              Krisidious
                              last edited by

                              @dave r said:

                              What makes it look fake?

                              The seam along the dovetails...

                              By: Kristoff Rand
                              Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                              • Dave RD Offline
                                Dave R
                                last edited by

                                @krisidious said:

                                @dave r said:

                                What makes it look fake?

                                The seam along the dovetails...

                                That's not a seam. It's a marking gauge line for the baseline. You'll sometimes see it on hand cut non-twisted dovetails too. It's part of the marking out for the joint. The baseline is often cut deep because it forms a guide for the chisel when cleaning out the waste.

                                http://www.philadelphiafurnitureworkshop.com/category/show/images/Dovetails_000.JPG

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                                • S Offline
                                  slbaumgartner
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                                  The mental hurdle in this joint as nicely illustrated in Scott's video is that the joint slides together along a 45 degree sloped line, not straight in as we are accustomed to. That fools the mind and eye into thinking it can't go together at all!

                                  Steve

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                                  • tuna1957T Offline
                                    tuna1957
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                                    if memory strikes right , the late Tage Frid shows how to layout , cut and fit this joint in his book " Tage Frid Teaches Woodworking" . Hope to give it a try just for grins one of these days.

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                                    • Dave RD Offline
                                      Dave R
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                                      I had the pleasure of watching Tage Frid handcut dovetails once years ago. He came to speak to a college woodworking class I was in. We watched as he laid out and quickly cut a set of dovetails. When he was finished, he put the joint together and then he looked around the room. Not at us but at the walls of the shop. The professor asked him what he was looking for and he replied, "A dovetail hammer." No one in the class including the professor ever heard of a dovetail hammer before. Frid broke into a smile and walked over to the hand tool wall and grabbed a claw hammer. He walked back over to where he'd been working and gave one of the pins a few whacks to spread out the fibers and fill a small gap he'd created when cutting the joint. Then he held up the hammer with a grin and said, "This is a dovetail hammer." πŸ˜†

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                                      • robertWanR Offline
                                        robertWan
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                                        Ipossible?

                                        Robert


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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
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                                          They slide in/out on the diagonal ?

                                          TIG

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                                          • robertWanR Offline
                                            robertWan
                                            last edited by

                                            No. πŸ˜„
                                            Radial.
                                            .skp is up.

                                            Robert

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