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    • jeff hammondJ Offline
      jeff hammond
      last edited by

      @dave r said:

      What makes it look fake?

      because it looks like there's not a way to assemble/dissemble it.. that's what the joint is for anyway, right?
      like-- "hey bud, why don't you try to figure that one out hehheh"..
      or is it inherently stronger than a traditional dovetail?

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      • S ShepherdS Offline
        S Shepherd
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        @krisidious said:

        Nice animation Shep...

        This is one of the ones that looked faked.

        http://www.richardjonesfurniture.com/Tables-Chairs/boire-coffee-table/boire-table-3-600.jpg

        One thing that's different about this is the miter on the end pair. I think it's done like this.


        twisted miter.PNG

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        • KrisidiousK Offline
          Krisidious
          last edited by

          @dave r said:

          What makes it look fake?

          The seam along the dovetails...

          By: Kristoff Rand
          Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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          • Dave RD Offline
            Dave R
            last edited by

            @krisidious said:

            @dave r said:

            What makes it look fake?

            The seam along the dovetails...

            That's not a seam. It's a marking gauge line for the baseline. You'll sometimes see it on hand cut non-twisted dovetails too. It's part of the marking out for the joint. The baseline is often cut deep because it forms a guide for the chisel when cleaning out the waste.

            http://www.philadelphiafurnitureworkshop.com/category/show/images/Dovetails_000.JPG

            Etaoin Shrdlu

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            • S Offline
              slbaumgartner
              last edited by

              The mental hurdle in this joint as nicely illustrated in Scott's video is that the joint slides together along a 45 degree sloped line, not straight in as we are accustomed to. That fools the mind and eye into thinking it can't go together at all!

              Steve

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              • tuna1957T Offline
                tuna1957
                last edited by

                if memory strikes right , the late Tage Frid shows how to layout , cut and fit this joint in his book " Tage Frid Teaches Woodworking" . Hope to give it a try just for grins one of these days.

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                • Dave RD Offline
                  Dave R
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                  I had the pleasure of watching Tage Frid handcut dovetails once years ago. He came to speak to a college woodworking class I was in. We watched as he laid out and quickly cut a set of dovetails. When he was finished, he put the joint together and then he looked around the room. Not at us but at the walls of the shop. The professor asked him what he was looking for and he replied, "A dovetail hammer." No one in the class including the professor ever heard of a dovetail hammer before. Frid broke into a smile and walked over to the hand tool wall and grabbed a claw hammer. He walked back over to where he'd been working and gave one of the pins a few whacks to spread out the fibers and fill a small gap he'd created when cutting the joint. Then he held up the hammer with a grin and said, "This is a dovetail hammer." πŸ˜†

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                  • robertWanR Offline
                    robertWan
                    last edited by

                    Ipossible?

                    Robert


                    jaskolczy ogon.jpg


                    jaskolczy ogon2.jpg


                    jaskolczy ogon.skp

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      They slide in/out on the diagonal ?

                      TIG

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                      • robertWanR Offline
                        robertWan
                        last edited by

                        No. πŸ˜„
                        Radial.
                        .skp is up.

                        Robert

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                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
                          jeff hammond
                          last edited by

                          @robertwan said:

                          Ipossible?

                          ha. wow.. at first i was thinking "ok, there's no way that's going together.. especially getting all 4 pieces to do it"

                          but, after checking your .skp, it appears like it will actually work.
                          πŸ‘

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                          • S Offline
                            slbaumgartner
                            last edited by

                            It could be a challenge to create a jig for cutting that one accurately!

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                            • robertWanR Offline
                              robertWan
                              last edited by

                              I made on the CNC.

                              Robert

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                              • cottyC Offline
                                cotty
                                last edited by

                                Nice and clever!

                                my SketchUp gallery

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                                • robertWanR Offline
                                  robertWan
                                  last edited by

                                  I tried on the CNC, but it can not be done. The test is .skp file above.

                                  http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/e15/10693512_322800104559875_387077836_n.jpg



                                  Robert


                                  Shinobu Kobayashi.jpg

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                                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                    jeff hammond
                                    last edited by

                                    @robertwan said:

                                    I tried on the CNC, but it can not be done. The test is .skp file above.

                                    do you mean it can't be done with CNC or it can't be done at all?

                                    dotdotdot

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                                    • robertWanR Offline
                                      robertWan
                                      last edited by

                                      Chisel can be done.
                                      I'll try to draw it later, it looked as if made on CNC.

                                      Robert

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                                      • robertWanR Offline
                                        robertWan
                                        last edited by

                                        It's not bad, I thought there would be more problems.
                                        That's what it looks like when made on CNC, there are few problems.
                                        1-6 can be corrected with a chisel. 7 and 8 is an empty space, but invisible.
                                        There's only 7x7x7 [mm] to cut out with a chisel.

                                        Robert


                                        jaskolczy ogon CNC.jpg


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                                        jaskolczy ogon CNC.skp

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                                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                          jeff hammond
                                          last edited by

                                          are you going to cut one?

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                                          • robertWanR Offline
                                            robertWan
                                            last edited by

                                            Minimum of two pieces.

                                            Robert

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