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    • TeigT Offline
      Teig
      last edited by

      Airbox Bellmouth2.skpI think I've cracked it!

      I've drawn another one tonight, a mere hour to draw:


      http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af190/Nursi555/A Mini/AirboxBellmouth2_zpsc2ec470a.jpg

      πŸ˜„

      Airbox Bellmouth2.skp

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      • cottyC Offline
        cotty
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        Looks good!
        You can use the soften edges window to smooth out some of the lines (no difference for printing, only looks nicer πŸ˜‰ ).

        airbox.jpg

        my SketchUp gallery

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        • D Offline
          d12dozr
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          @teig said:

          Just trying to get a quote now, had one for Β£43 which I thought a bit harsh so I'm trying some other companies now.

          That's about the best price for a part of this size on a commercial printer. Cost on a desktop printer is about 1/10 that price, which is the biggest advantage of using one of them. With your newer design, you actually have a little more room for cleaning out support material.

          @cotty said:

          Looks good!
          You can use the soften edges window to smooth out some of the lines (no difference for printing, only looks nicer πŸ˜‰ ).

          +1 πŸ‘

          On the flip side, this is closer to what it'll look like after printing:
          Capture.JPG

          See the faceting on the curved bell surface? If you want that to print smooth, you'll need to increase the # of segments on the curves (Chapter 4 of the book). If the faceting is no problem, then you're good to go. πŸ˜„

          3D Printing with SketchUp Book
          http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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          • TeigT Offline
            Teig
            last edited by

            The faceting is a problem, I would need to polish all those off to a mirror surface, for the bellmouth itself at least, the mounting flange etc doesn't matter.
            I've been told that some desktop printers will automatically build in support material so it looks like it's going back to that again πŸ˜„

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            • TeigT Offline
              Teig
              last edited by

              Can I increase the number of circle segments now? Or will I need to redraw it from scratch again?

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              • D Offline
                d12dozr
                last edited by

                Definitely redo the model with higher resolution curves then - no reason to polish by hand more than necessary! Once you've push/pulled or follow-me'd, it has to be redrawn, unless you saved the intermediate steps like I show in the book.

                Yep, pretty much any printer will automatically add the support material - that's whats shown in the T-rex model I posted before. Cleaning the support material is the tricky part, especially in an enclosed area like your model. Sorry if I didn't make that clear earlier.

                Here's a video showing how the support material is cleaned out. On this particular model, it went very well.

                3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                • TeigT Offline
                  Teig
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                  Thanks again d12dozr, that is a real help. I thought I had to put in all those supports and had been scrabbling around the t'interweb trying to find where and what spacing you put them in at. πŸ˜•

                  Back to the drawing board for v14 it is then.... πŸ˜„

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                  • TeigT Offline
                    Teig
                    last edited by

                    I am getting the hang of it! V19 was drawn in 45 minutes last night, solid first time πŸ˜„

                    Bellmouth50RRadialSlot.jpg

                    Bellmouth50RRadialSlotSOLID.skp

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
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                      Cool but you have forgotten the V6! πŸ’š

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                      • TeigT Offline
                        Teig
                        last edited by

                        @pilou said:

                        Cool but you have forgotten the V6! πŸ’š

                        You need to get up to speed Pilou πŸ˜„

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                          d12dozr
                          last edited by

                          New design is SEXY!

                          One question...is this area under much stress? If so it may be a good idea to add some meat so it doesn't break easily.
                          Capture.JPG

                          3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                          http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                          • TeigT Offline
                            Teig
                            last edited by

                            Not much stress, it only has to hold the weight of itself up and the one my mate test-printed weighed in at 50g so not very much at all, nothing that a suitable washer won't support (I hope πŸ˜„). This version will weigh in a fair bit lighter too.

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                              Teig
                              last edited by

                              Well since you pointed that out I've had the compulsion to fiddle πŸ˜„ But... I can't work out a way to add a bit of 'meat' to that area? Short of starting from scratch that is. To strengthen that area I've tried making an arc on the base and Push/Pulling but it leaves gaps.

                              v6 added for Pilou πŸ˜›

                              Bellmouth50RRadialSlot2v6.skp

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                                d12dozr
                                last edited by

                                I would try making the shape you want to add as a separate solid group, then use Outer Shell to combine them.

                                3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                                http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                                • TeigT Offline
                                  Teig
                                  last edited by

                                  More study required...

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                                    Teig
                                    last edited by

                                    I'm back again πŸ˜„
                                    I'm on version 34 (or so) now. After a lot of research reading mind-boggling papers on how to optimise the design I have changed my design slightly.

                                    I'm having problems with the Follow Me tool again, it won't do this:

                                    BellmouthRoundlip45Rv34.jpg

                                    Is there any way I can make it work? I've tried it a few ways on different radius circles to follow, but it will not have it. I've tried it with half-circles and solid circles, this version is trying to be hollow to save weight. Anyone have any ideas?

                                    v6 for Pilou πŸ˜„: BellmouthRoundlip45Rv34.jpg


                                    BellmouthRoundlip45Rv34.skp

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                                    • cottyC Offline
                                      cotty
                                      last edited by

                                      Moved the face away from the other geometry and scaled the model up (1000x)...

                                      follow34.jpg

                                      my SketchUp gallery

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                                      • pilouP Offline
                                        pilou
                                        last edited by

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        v6 for Pilou

                                        Not just for me but for all users who have not the same up version than you! πŸ˜‰

                                        PS you are making an engine in 3D Printing ?
                                        What will be the fuel ? And for what vehicle ?

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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                                        • TeigT Offline
                                          Teig
                                          last edited by

                                          @cotty said:

                                          Moved the face away from the other geometry and scaled the model up (1000x)...

                                          [attachment=0:1vs06ddx]<!-- ia0 -->follow34.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1vs06ddx]

                                          That looks brilliant.

                                          Err.. How do I move a face away from the other geometry? Every time I try I get little 'strings' attached that just stretch out.

                                          And the scale tool. Sorry for sounding stupid but if I scale it by a 1000x what do I sale by to get back to my dimensions?

                                          Thanks.

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                                          • TeigT Offline
                                            Teig
                                            last edited by

                                            @pilou said:

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            v6 for Pilou

                                            Not just for me but for all users who have not the same up version than you! πŸ˜‰

                                            PS you are making an engine in 3D Printing ?
                                            What will be the fuel ? And for what vehicle ?

                                            Yes, it's to go on the carburettor intake on a petrol powered 1976 Austin Mini, my daily drive. πŸ˜„

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