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    • BoxB Online
      Box
      last edited by

      With 2015 you can export ,png with transparent background.
      Like this.

      http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s296/storeben/SU/Shadows.png

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        suSteve
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        Do you have a copy of the skp you have used for the .png? I have exported to png (transparency) which is where the object was visible.

        thanks

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          driven
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          I don't know if you can exclude a 3d shape shadows, on a mac...

          have a look at tig's Shadow Projectorhttp://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=323%26amp;t=41885
          you can hide everything else than export a png/tiff of just the shape of a shadow...
          this is geometry, on the ground...

          john

          learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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          • jeff hammondJ Offline
            jeff hammond
            last edited by

            some rendering apps can render only shadows with transparent everything else.
            the upside is you get very clean shadows which render relatively quick.. the downside is it's maybe overkill for what you're trying to accomplish in the end.

            so what, exactly, are you trying to accomplish?

            dotdotdot

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              suSteve
              last edited by

              Thanks. I am on a Mac.

              I wanted to just export shadows only with a transparent background.

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              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                jeff hammond
                last edited by

                @susteve said:

                Thanks. I am on a Mac.

                I wanted to just export shadows only with a transparent background.

                like that's it? that's the final goal?

                my point is that there may be other ways to reach your goal

                dotdotdot

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                  driven
                  last edited by

                  Jeff, Dave and I also use mac...

                  I think tig's plugin or a renderer are the options...

                  how are you wanting to use the results?

                  john

                  learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                    suSteve
                    last edited by

                    I am following this http://www.ronenbekerman.com/making-of-urban-plaza/

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                      driven
                      last edited by

                      he is doing what you started with, the shadows are on all faces as well as the ground...

                      john

                      learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                        suSteve
                        last edited by

                        Thank you. At least I know that it is not possible to export shadows only with a transparent background on a Mac without a plugin

                        Thanks again

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                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
                          jeff hammond
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                          @susteve said:

                          Thank you. At least I know that it is not possible to export shadows only with a transparent background on a Mac without a plugin

                          Thanks again

                          just a fwiw..
                          you've been able to do this forever on Mac (natively).. Windows has just gained the capability in su2015

                          edit-- oh wait.. I misread what you wrote.. 😳 I'll look at it again later when I'm at a computer.

                          dotdotdot

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                            pbacot
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                            Is that what he did in the tutorial (great link--fine artist BTW)? No he just used a hidden line, white background, no-edges shadows export to png, and set the layer in PS to multiply.

                            If you want you can set png to transparent background (in the export dialog "Options"). The objects will still be white but you can set the color to alpha in PS (works with white background as well anyway).

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                            • jeff hammondJ Offline
                              jeff hammond
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                              @box said:

                              With 2015 you can export ,png with transparent background.
                              Like this.

                              http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s296/storeben/SU/Shadows.png

                              ha.. i see what you did there πŸ˜‰

                              (moved the geometry up and out of the view.. had me confused for a bit though)

                              dotdotdot

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                              • pilouP Offline
                                pilou
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                                I believe that Renderiza has make a such plugin! πŸ˜‰

                                [SU]Ch by Renderiza
                                and find "shadow" πŸ˜‰

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                                • BoxB Online
                                  Box
                                  last edited by

                                  Sorry I'm not near a computer. The geometry in mine is in full view but painted with a transparent png texture. And it's windows hence the transparent background.

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                                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                    jeff hammond
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                                    @pilou said:

                                    I believe that Renderiza has make a such plugin! πŸ˜‰

                                    that looks like it might do the trick.. i tried it in 2015 despite it not being listed as supported and yeah, doesn't work.. (says su8 & 2013).. i'll try it in 8 a little later.

                                    @box said:

                                    Sorry I'm not near a computer. The geometry in mine is in full view but painted with a transparent png texture. And it's windows hence the transparent background.

                                    ok, i see.

                                    re: transparent background.. the reason su2015 release notes say "transparent background upon export is available in windows" (or whatever) is because it's already been in mac since the beginning.. those type of abilities are built into OS X itself which made it easy for the devs to implement on mac..

                                    for instance.. notice the native osx screenshot above is a .png with drop shadow and transparent background.. macs are fancy like that :-D

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                                    • BoxB Online
                                      Box
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                                      I don't know what can and can't be done on a Mac, I gave my version of how to solve the question. Transparent texture transparent background and a jobs a carrot.

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                                      • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                        jeff hammond
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                                        @box said:

                                        I don't know what can and can't be done on a Mac, I gave my version of how to solve the question. Transparent texture transparent background and a jobs a carrot.

                                        yeah, and i think yours is the best solution offered here.. especially for keeping it inside sketchup without a plugin

                                        i clarified that transparent exports are possible on mac since there seems to be some confusion in the thread about which OS is being used when in this case, it doesn't matter.. both su versions have the same capabilities/flaws regarding exporting transparent backgrounds and non-transparent objects (unless we use the method you've shown πŸ‘ )


                                        not necessarily your solution here @steve but following up on the rendering solution i mentioned earlier in case it helps others who might be reading.

                                        sketchup export - no shadows/shading:

                                        shadows1.png

                                        shadow pass render: (in this one, i didn't ignore any objects so i could get the semi-transparent shading on the faces)
                                        shadows2.png

                                        combined:
                                        shadows_merged.jpg


                                        example with only ground shadows.. ignore geometry
                                        shadow3.png


                                        of course, this is all going to depend on your renderer's capabilities.. i use indigo.. this is on my laptop which i don't have a license for so it's the free version of indigo. (watermark + size limit)
                                        ymmv

                                        [EDIT] oh, @pilou.. i tried the renderiza plugin on su8.. it doesn't work (i mean, the plugin works but it doesn't accomplish this particular task)

                                        dotdotdot

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                                        • BoxB Online
                                          Box
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                                          And roughly the same cluster of shapes with transparent texture and some edges and faces on and off.

                                          http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s296/storeben/SU/7c7414e5-8105-4078-b053-c96dd4da7cec.png

                                          I must admit, I'm lost as to where this is going and as such am off to bed.

                                          BTW the transparent png texture that I used was discussed recently in this thread.
                                          http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15%26amp;t=60086

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                                          • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                            jeff hammond
                                            last edited by

                                            @box said:

                                            I must admit, I'm lost as to where this is going and as such am off to bed.

                                            going nowhere.. it's already been found out @steve was following ronen's tutorial improperly as there was no fancy transparent exports going on in there.

                                            i feel like you think i'm trying to arm wrestle over something when i'm just sharing ideas to the general community.


                                            using a renderer will allow you to get the shadows which fall on faces while still keeping the rest of the object transparent.. or block out shadows which shouldn't be visible.

                                            another use is for very high quality shadow work in large exports.. here's an example of that:
                                            (6000px wide -- view at full size)

                                            Link Preview Image
                                            Dropbox - 404

                                            favicon

                                            (dl.dropboxusercontent.com)

                                            (8MB download)

                                            dotdotdot

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