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    • BoxB Offline
      Box
      last edited by

      I was doodling away testing some plugins and randomly created this shape.
      I noticed it was a solid, yet it seems to somehow defy a few of the rules of a solid.
      It just struck me as odd and I was wondering if anyone might have an explanation for it.
      It's of no real importance but it seems like a flaw in the logic of the software, and could have an impact of sorts when trying to make things for 3d printing.


      Odd Solid1.skp


      Odd.JPG

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      • Dave RD Offline
        Dave R
        last edited by

        Interesting, indeed. Is it because of the lack of intersections between faces?

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        • BoxB Offline
          Box
          last edited by

          I guess so, it's sort of folded over on itself or extruded through itself. If you intersect it it obviously loses it's solidity.
          The model is there if you want to look for yourself.

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          • Rich O BrienR Offline
            Rich O Brien Moderator
            last edited by

            Similar to how a curve can be straight.

            Sometimes reality clashes with logic and chaos ensues.

            There's a name for this result and I can't think of it.

            I know of tools in MeshLab that highlight these [unknown name] errors and flag them.

            Hopefully it will come to me.

            I do know that scanning for this is referred to mesh linting.

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              Maybe because the self intersection is not take in count as you can see on some of no blue edges!

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              • BoxB Offline
                Box
                last edited by

                Thanks for that Rich, I's good to know it's not an unheard of anomaly.
                And as an added bonus, having googled mesh linting I now know everything you never wanted to know about clothes dryers and the people who live in them.

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                • BoxB Offline
                  Box
                  last edited by

                  It's like the old tree falls and nobody there to hear it bollocks.
                  If a solid passes through itself is it really a solid.
                  It's easy to reproduce and it's doing my head in.


                  Solid.JPG


                  Solid Twist.JPG

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                  • Rich O BrienR Offline
                    Rich O Brien Moderator
                    last edited by

                    The volume mesh is solid because the app considers it manifold.

                    Even though it is physically wrong it is programmatically correct to SU.

                    Unprintable but solid until you intersect and clean.

                    Faces are infinitely thin

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                    • BoxB Offline
                      Box
                      last edited by

                      Yeah I know what you mean Rich but it still drives me nuts.
                      Even with thickness it is solid.
                      Thickness.JPG

                      And here it is cleaned up and vaguely printable, why on earth anyone would want to I don't know. But it was an interesting exercise in working through the logic of virtual solids and real solids.


                      Printable.JPG

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        You've [re]invented a sort of 'Klein Bottle' - a topological nightmare !
                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klein_bottle

                        Like a 3d Mobius strip ! - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%B6bius_strip

                        😲

                        TIG

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                        • BoxB Offline
                          Box
                          last edited by

                          Excellent, Thanks Tig, never seen the Klein before.

                          Also the shape I made is not dissimilar to a volute I think.

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