SketchUp 2015 is 64bit

Al Hart

@numerobis said:

But copying geometry could be improved...

Yea - we really want to improve geometry creation. The FaceFinder improvements in SU2015 was one step into that.

Multiple Threads

We, Render Plus, have written a couple of CAD Systems - and still support ARRIS Cad which is out there somewhere.

We have given a lot of thought to how to use multiple threads in a CAD system. The basic problem is that in order to use more than one thread you have to be able to do two things at once.

So, it is almost impossible to multi-thread a ruby routine which is doing something. (But not fully impossible) But somehwat easier to multi-thread time consuming operations in the C-code.

One relatively easy thing would be to improve searching the database for a particular object - because you could start 2 or 4 or more searches at once - each in its own thread looking at 1/2, 1/4 or whatever of the database - and vastly improve search times. But search times are typically such a small part of the overall CAD experience that it wouldn't help much.

But when you find a particularly slow operation like copying geometry, you might be able to multi thread it and speed it up. This is more complex because each thread is adding stuff to the database, so you have to let each thread make its changes and then clean it up afterwards. But it might be a fine challenge for some SketchUp programmers.

d12dozr

@SU team, thanks for a great release. Glad to see Trimble taking the program in a fresh direction.

david_h

I just got it and installed. I'm really late to the game. .. .again. Any tricks or traps to bringing over my plugins folder from V8?

(yes. .. I was still on V8 )

Box

@david_h said:

I just got it and installed. I'm really late to the game. .. .again. Any tricks or traps to bringing over my plugins folder from V8?

(yes. .. I was still on V8 )

DON'T copy over old plugins.

Install the sketchucation plugin and then auto install all new from there.

Dave R

@david_h said:

I just got it and installed. I'm really late to the game. .. .again. Any tricks or traps to bringing over my plugins folder from V8?

(yes. .. I was still on V8 )

Boy! You sure are late to the game. As Box said, don't. Simple as that.

david_h

@box said:

@david_h said:

I just got it and installed. I'm really late to the game. .. .again. Any tricks or traps to bringing over my plugins folder from V8?

(yes. .. I was still on V8 )

DON'T copy over old plugins.

Install the sketchucation plugin and then auto install all new from there.

Yeah. . .I was afraid of that. Darn it.

david_h

@dave r said:

@david_h said:

I just got it and installed. I'm really late to the game. .. .again. Any tricks or traps to bringing over my plugins folder from V8?

(yes. .. I was still on V8 )

Boy! You sure are late to the game. As Box said, don't. Simple as that.

And that is why I didn't upgrade with 13, 14, whatever. I didn't want to slog thru all the plugsin and crap .. .again. Looks like a fun day for me!

D

Box

With the plugin store you can just work away and install them as you find you need them.

david_h

Yeah. I know. But I'm not good at this. Kinda Ironic for a "Top Sketchucator" n'st-ce pas?

hellnbak

Hey, if I can do it, anybody can

And it's really worth the effort!

david_h

So I am doin' the whole "Plugin store Thing"(thanks Rich for the video) I did know that much. But it gives an "Extensions" directory rather than the good ol' plugins tab.

what about old but beloved little plugins with .rb extensions.. Can I just move them into the extensions directory? I can't just create a plugins directory it seems. And do i need to re-download and re-isntall my renderers? Podium, twilight, thea. .. etc etc etc? Thanks for the help

and the patience. I'm just out of practice. I don't do this much anymore. Version 8 you know.

D

driven

@david_h said:

... Version 8 you know.

definitely start fresh and download everything new...
have fun
john

Box

To put it simply,
Plugins are now called extensions.
Use the Plugin Store from within SU to install whatever plugins you want from there.
Use the Extension Warehouse from within SU to install anything you want from there.
Any other plugins from elsewhere should be install in the appropriate manner.
.rb dropped into the plugin folder.
.rbz installed via the preferences/extension window
.zip unzipped into the plugin folder
.exe via their own installer
The default plugin folder can now be found at
C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\Roaming\SketchUp\SketchUp 2015\SketchUp\Plugins

Renderers will need to be reinstalled, some don't have updates yet.
Some plugins won't work, but most are being updated or there is something similar available.

david_h

Thanks Guys. I appreciate it.

D

Chris Fullmer

@david_h said:

So I am doin' the whole "Plugin store Thing"(thanks Rich for the video) I did know that much. But it gives an "Extensions" directory rather than the good ol' plugins tab.

SketchUp 2015 changed the name of the "Plugins" menu to be the "Extensions" menu. No real difference, we're just working towards getting all our developers to register their 'plugins' as 'extensions'. It is not actually related to whether an extension is distributed as just a .rb file, or a .rbz or a .zip. Its just some calls they have to make in their code. Point is, don't be alarmed by the Extensions menu, its just a name change Old .rb files will still shot up in that menu, even though they used to show up in the Plugins menu.

@david_h said:

what about old but beloved little plugins with .rb extensions.. Can I just move them into the extensions directory? I can't just create a plugins directory it seems.

It is very hit-or-miss as to which ooold .rb plugins can be copied over and still work. That is why you really really have to install them via the Extension Warehouse, the SketchUcation plugin store, or smustard, just so you make sure you are getting the most recent version. Then if you still have some .rb extensions that you can't live without, just copy them into your plugins folder like you used to. Just do it sin small batches. If one doesn't work, it might pop up a loading error. then you'll know which one failed, and you won't be able to carry that one forward. In that case, all you can do is track down the author and try to get an update, or try a different plugin with same functionality.

@david_h said:

And do i need to re-download and re-install my renderers? Podium, twilight, thea. .. etc etc etc? Thanks for the help

These are are ones that you will most definitely have to re-download their newest version, that is specifically compatible with SU 2015. Most extensions that have their own installers do things to your system that simply copying their plugin files from one version of SU to the next is bound to fail. So yeah, a good rule of thumb is that if it has its own installer, it definitely cannot simply be copied.

Hope that helps!

Chris

david_h

Hey Chris! thanks for the reply. I feel like a newbie today. Cuz. .I kinda am.

I am resigned to just reload everything. I'll muddle thru somehow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O8gTIr4lys
So .. .Chris. . .they treatin' ya okay over there in the land of Sketchup? You likin' that new gig?

quim

"Ons Gaan Nou Braai" an old South African Expression for we going to have a party (BBQ).
Eish dis x64 is moving. loving it.

Dave R

@david_h said:

And that is why I didn't upgrade with 13, 14, whatever. I didn't want to slog thru all the plugsin and crap .. .again. Looks like a fun day for me!

D

Think of it as a good opportunity to do some housekeeping. Don't install those old plugins you never used anyway.

david_h

That is true. I am doing a lot of housekeeping on plugins. I think I was up to 24,764. I only use about 12.

Dave R

There you go! That's one or two plugins you won't need to download.