SketchUp 2015 is 64bit

hellnbak · 6 Nov 2014, 19:15

Hey, if I can do it, anybody can

And it's really worth the effort!

david_h · 6 Nov 2014, 19:23

So I am doin' the whole "Plugin store Thing"(thanks Rich for the video) I did know that much. But it gives an "Extensions" directory rather than the good ol' plugins tab.

what about old but beloved little plugins with .rb extensions.. Can I just move them into the extensions directory? I can't just create a plugins directory it seems. And do i need to re-download and re-isntall my renderers? Podium, twilight, thea. .. etc etc etc? Thanks for the help

and the patience. I'm just out of practice. I don't do this much anymore. Version 8 you know.

D

driven · 6 Nov 2014, 19:42

@david_h said:

... Version 8 you know.

definitely start fresh and download everything new...
have fun
john

Box · 6 Nov 2014, 19:50

To put it simply,
Plugins are now called extensions.
Use the Plugin Store from within SU to install whatever plugins you want from there.
Use the Extension Warehouse from within SU to install anything you want from there.
Any other plugins from elsewhere should be install in the appropriate manner.
.rb dropped into the plugin folder.
.rbz installed via the preferences/extension window
.zip unzipped into the plugin folder
.exe via their own installer
The default plugin folder can now be found at
C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\Roaming\SketchUp\SketchUp 2015\SketchUp\Plugins

Renderers will need to be reinstalled, some don't have updates yet.
Some plugins won't work, but most are being updated or there is something similar available.

david_h · 6 Nov 2014, 19:59

Thanks Guys. I appreciate it.

D

Chris Fullmer · 6 Nov 2014, 20:01

@david_h said:

So I am doin' the whole "Plugin store Thing"(thanks Rich for the video) I did know that much. But it gives an "Extensions" directory rather than the good ol' plugins tab.

SketchUp 2015 changed the name of the "Plugins" menu to be the "Extensions" menu. No real difference, we're just working towards getting all our developers to register their 'plugins' as 'extensions'. It is not actually related to whether an extension is distributed as just a .rb file, or a .rbz or a .zip. Its just some calls they have to make in their code. Point is, don't be alarmed by the Extensions menu, its just a name change Old .rb files will still shot up in that menu, even though they used to show up in the Plugins menu.

@david_h said:

what about old but beloved little plugins with .rb extensions.. Can I just move them into the extensions directory? I can't just create a plugins directory it seems.

It is very hit-or-miss as to which ooold .rb plugins can be copied over and still work. That is why you really really have to install them via the Extension Warehouse, the SketchUcation plugin store, or smustard, just so you make sure you are getting the most recent version. Then if you still have some .rb extensions that you can't live without, just copy them into your plugins folder like you used to. Just do it sin small batches. If one doesn't work, it might pop up a loading error. then you'll know which one failed, and you won't be able to carry that one forward. In that case, all you can do is track down the author and try to get an update, or try a different plugin with same functionality.

@david_h said:

And do i need to re-download and re-install my renderers? Podium, twilight, thea. .. etc etc etc? Thanks for the help

These are are ones that you will most definitely have to re-download their newest version, that is specifically compatible with SU 2015. Most extensions that have their own installers do things to your system that simply copying their plugin files from one version of SU to the next is bound to fail. So yeah, a good rule of thumb is that if it has its own installer, it definitely cannot simply be copied.

Hope that helps!

Chris

david_h · 6 Nov 2014, 20:33

Hey Chris! thanks for the reply. I feel like a newbie today. Cuz. .I kinda am.

I am resigned to just reload everything. I'll muddle thru somehow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O8gTIr4lys
So .. .Chris. . .they treatin' ya okay over there in the land of Sketchup? You likin' that new gig?

quim · 6 Nov 2014, 20:47

"Ons Gaan Nou Braai" an old South African Expression for we going to have a party (BBQ).
Eish dis x64 is moving. loving it.

Dave R · 6 Nov 2014, 21:44

@david_h said:

And that is why I didn't upgrade with 13, 14, whatever. I didn't want to slog thru all the plugsin and crap .. .again. Looks like a fun day for me!

D

Think of it as a good opportunity to do some housekeeping. Don't install those old plugins you never used anyway.

david_h · 6 Nov 2014, 21:50

That is true. I am doing a lot of housekeeping on plugins. I think I was up to 24,764. I only use about 12.

Dave R · 6 Nov 2014, 21:55

There you go! That's one or two plugins you won't need to download.

david_h · 6 Nov 2014, 22:00

Still having a bit of an issue getting Thea and Podium to show up. But I'm working on it.

EDIT Well,. .. just got Thea. . .now onto podium

Krisidious · 6 Nov 2014, 22:12

Remember Thea is updated for 2014 64bit.

david_h · 6 Nov 2014, 22:16

Yeah. . .I finally figured that one out. I'm getting there. Takes me a while.

Bruce Watt · 6 Nov 2014, 22:25

@chris fullmer said:

@david_h said:

So I am doin' the whole "Plugin store Thing"(thanks Rich for the video) I did know that much. But it gives an "Extensions" directory rather than the good ol' plugins tab.

SketchUp 2015 changed the name of the "Plugins" menu to be the "Extensions" menu. No real difference, we're just working towards getting all our developers to register their 'plugins' as 'extensions'. It is not actually related to whether an extension is distributed as just a .rb file, or a .rbz or a .zip. Its just some calls they have to make in their code. Point is, don't be alarmed by the Extensions menu, its just a name change Old .rb files will still shot up in that menu, even though they used to show up in the Plugins menu.

@david_h said:

what about old but beloved little plugins with .rb extensions.. Can I just move them into the extensions directory? I can't just create a plugins directory it seems.

It is very hit-or-miss as to which ooold .rb plugins can be copied over and still work. That is why you really really have to install them via the Extension Warehouse, the SketchUcation plugin store, or smustard, just so you make sure you are getting the most recent version. Then if you still have some .rb extensions that you can't live without, just copy them into your plugins folder like you used to. Just do it sin small batches. If one doesn't work, it might pop up a loading error. then you'll know which one failed, and you won't be able to carry that one forward. In that case, all you can do is track down the author and try to get an update, or try a different plugin with same functionality.

@david_h said:

And do i need to re-download and re-install my renderers? Podium, twilight, thea. .. etc etc etc? Thanks for the help

These are are ones that you will most definitely have to re-download their newest version, that is specifically compatible with SU 2015. Most extensions that have their own installers do things to your system that simply copying their plugin files from one version of SU to the next is bound to fail. So yeah, a good rule of thumb is that if it has its own installer, it definitely cannot simply be copied.

Hope that helps!

Chris

Thats very informative and helpfull. I tried to get Podium walker to instal before reading this and found it was a no go. Guess we need to wait a bit long for these extension installers to be updated.

jeff hammond · 6 Nov 2014, 22:57

@andybot said:

@driven said:

SketchUp now starts with a 30 day trial of SketchUp Pro.

which is nice...

john

interesting, no more 8 hour trial period? That's too bad imo.

[c.t.]
maybe people started figuring out you could use free sketchup for everything then sketchup pro only when exporting/importing dwg..

8hrs could potentially last all year until the next release when you can start over again
[/conspiracy theory]

driven · 6 Nov 2014, 23:05

@jeff hammond said:

8hrs could potentially last all year until the next release when you can start over again
[/conspiracy theory]
been there, got the post card....

archheni · 7 Nov 2014, 02:01

We experienced some dramatic speed improvements in SU 2015 compared to SU 8!
Our files are all usually very large here so we just tested it with one of our current projects..in SU8 it took around 10 min to open the file and around 20 min to export just one single(!) picture with 4000px.

Now SU 2015 opens the very same file on the same machine in under 10s and exported the same picture in less than a minute!

Thank you for finally listening to your Pro users!!!!

andybot · 7 Nov 2014, 03:12

very impressive. Finally had some time to play and it's amazing to be able to work with some files which caused previous versions just absolutely bog down. Here's a 150MB site model from which I was easily able to export an image (ended up using about 4+Gb of system memory. I would have exported larger, but it was about at the available memory limit with my lower spec laptop.) Can't wait for vray2.0 to be functional in 2015

sketchuh · 7 Nov 2014, 05:51

@andybot said:

very impressive. Finally had some time to play and it's amazing to be able to work with some files which caused previous versions just absolutely bog down. Here's a 150MB site model from which I was easily able to export an image (ended up using about 4+Gb of system memory. I would have exported larger, but it was about at the available memory limit with my lower spec laptop.) Can't wait for vray2.0 to be functional in 2015

yes yes yes!!!