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    • sketch3d.deS Offline
      sketch3d.de
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      @hellnbak said:

      Can somebody explain to me the advantages of switching to R14?

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      • ely862meE Offline
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        Actually it should be from v8 to v2014 which is more than that.

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        • JQLJ Offline
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          The hassle you had making all this posts was greater than the hassle you would have using 2014... With some added bonus to 2014 side!

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          • andybotA Offline
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            I say keep using v8! If it works mostly, why break it. I'm still waiting for features that would make it worth parting with my hard-earned cash. Neither came in 2013 or 2014.

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            • N Offline
              numerobis
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              @hellnbak said:

              Can somebody explain to me the advantages of switching to R14?

              i can tell you some disadvantages...

              • Bigger Icons = less space without any benefit (only more grey around the icons and it looks untidier to me)
              • the photomatch window is now wider than the other windows for no (visible) reason, the content is the same as before.

              I have installed v2014 and v8 now and i'm still using v8.

              There where no reason to upgrade for me (besides the annoying toolbar issues where the fix is now sold as feature...) but i did it before the upgrade price jumped from 73€ to 113€ a few months ago!

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              • BoxB Offline
                Box
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                And it didn't take long for this to turn into yet another old versus new thread, the other main reason why people think there are bugs.

                Helln', use what you are comfortable with and move on when you want. (and when you do be prepared to learn some new things.)

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                • andybotA Offline
                  andybot
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                  @box said:

                  the other main reason why people think there are bugs.

                  (oh right - the thread subject. I agree that is a mistaken way to think about it)

                  As far as I can tell, We're now talking about advantages and disadvantages. Yes, plugins install in a different way (which makes a lot of sense to me, and in the event I update to the latest version, I'll have to go through and reinstall all my plugins following the very clearly spelled out guidlines.) which will take time to work through in a new install.

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                  • sketch3d.deS Offline
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                    @andybot said:

                    I'm still waiting for features that would make it worth...

                    what features could this be... i.e. would you upgrade if e.g. a 64-bit version would be avail?

                    or no way if high-poly count support, subdivision modeling, nurbs modeling and brewing a yummy latte macchiato is not included 😄

                    just wondering

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                    • andybotA Offline
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                      @sketch3d.de said:

                      @andybot said:

                      I'm still waiting for features that would make it worth...

                      what features could this be... i.e. would you upgrade if e.g. a 64-bit version would be avail?

                      or no way if high-poly count support, subdivision modeling, nurbs modeling and brewing a yummy latte macchiato is not included 😄

                      just wondering

                      In fact, the main reason has been that commercial use is permitted with v8 free. There just hasn't been anything I've come across that I haven't been able to do with the tools and plugins that are already available in v8. When there's a swell new tool, or some workflow that I can't get in v8, then I'm all ears. My modeling needs are not very complex (mainly square architecture) While bells and whistles may be fun for playing, I'm careful how I spend my money on my actual needs. For quite some time now, I've spent it only on donating to plugin authors.

                      Edit: oh yeah, and I don't use layout. ACAD is better for my needs.

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                      • jiminy-billy-bobJ Offline
                        jiminy-billy-bob
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                        @hellnbak said:

                        Can somebody explain to me the advantages of switching to R14?

                        Here you go :

                        @hellnbak said:

                        plugins that sounded interesting that wouldn't work on the old version.

                        There will be more and more plugins only available in 2014+.

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                        • Dave RD Offline
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                          Is there any software anywhere that is "bug free"? I doubt it.

                          I think SU2014 has fewer bugs than SU7 or SU8 but Kurt, your post makes it sound as if you're reluctant to learn even a few new things like easier ways to install new plugins. Maybe you should just stick with SU7 and not trouble yourself.

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                          • hellnbakH Offline
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                            Dang it, I reinstalled R14. Decided I should stop being a stubborn old fart and give it a decent chance.

                            One nice thing - I seem to now have a choice as to which SU version I open my models with
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                            even though both are called Sketchup 2014, if I choose the one with the old icon it opens with R8. Strange, but I'll take it. Didn't have that option before.

                            Now I've got to see if I can come up with something to easily manipulate my shadows.

                            Sorry for all the controversy this thread has stirred up. Didn't mean for that to happen.

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                            • Rich O BrienR Offline
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                              • hellnbakH Offline
                                hellnbak
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                                @rich o brien said:

                                Steve's had an enema!

                                🤣

                                "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                • KrisidiousK Offline
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                                  I was reluctant to upgrade as I saw nothing worth paying more money for and losing some of my most used plugins. Then Skalp came along and gave me a reason to upgrade.

                                  If you're into Layout there are some tools for architecture there that will make you feel good about the choice. labeling, hatch patterns, speed and stability improvements.

                                  As for SU2014? I gained hidden line style, a classifier system that I don't use and it seems no one else does either, I lost some plugins, had to go through and reinstall everything, had to come up with new custom toolbar solution... After all that I'm back to normal minus a few plugins.

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                                  • sketch3d.deS Offline
                                    sketch3d.de
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                                    @krisidious said:

                                    ...I saw nothing worth paying more money for...

                                    btw, 145.- U$ for jumping from v8 to v10 (aka 2014)... the bug fixes and improvements of existing functions are already worth this 'effort'.

                                    jm2cts,

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                                    • KrisidiousK Offline
                                      Krisidious
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                                      I tested it and found no improvements that mattered to me worth any further investment. the addition of hatches was limited to only layout and no vector. Other than that and labeling I don't know what other improvements I missed. I was not having issue with any certain bugs. And sketchup still crashes daily with my plethora of plugins. And I am sorely missing a few of my old plugins like the SCF powerbar. Some of it works, but some of it does not.

                                      Skalp sections made me upgrade, or I would not have...

                                      By: Kristoff Rand
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                                      • hellnbakH Offline
                                        hellnbak
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                                        Well, I'll probably just keep it on my main computer, but I don't see me using it at all.
                                        Unless I save a model from R14, they all open with R8 automatically, so that's good. I use very few plugins, never use layout, and have had my fling with architecture. Even tho I've had R8 Pro for a few years now, I have never used any of it's pro features. I just got it to make sure it would download and install ok back when I thought I could get everyone a good deal on it (and didn't that turn out just fine 😒 )

                                        So, I appreciate all the input and suggestions from everybody. My efforts to make the "new and improved" SU worthwhile to me have come to a halt. It's there if I need it but I don't see why I would. R8 will do just fine for what work I have left to do.

                                        thanks again

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                                        • pbacotP Offline
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                                          I hope your architecture "fling" heats up again! Come back! http://sketchucation.com/community/gallery/52-route-66

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                                          • hellnbakH Offline
                                            hellnbak
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                                            @pbacot said:

                                            I hope your architecture "fling" heats up again!

                                            Yeah, that was fun, definitely something different for me. But working with flat planar surfaces just seems strange for me. I need curves, lotsa curves!!! 😆

                                            "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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