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    • jiminy-billy-bobJ Offline
      jiminy-billy-bob
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      For me, on win7, skp files are open with the last closed version.

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      • hellnbakH Offline
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        Can somebody explain to me the advantages of switching to R14? If it's the Plugin Store, I already have the plugins I need (at least one of which won't work in R14).
        I don't really see any kind of improvement in the new tools symbols, just change for changes sake and something else to get used to.
        So, really, why is R14 better than R8?
        Not trying to be argumentative, for all I know there are all sorts of valid reasons for switching. I would really like to know.
        Edumacate me, please. Fill my little head with knowledge (won't tell you what it's full of now 😆 )

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        • ely862meE Offline
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          http://www.sketchup.com/products/sketchup-pro/2014-features

          Apparently not much for the simple users(like me and you), but for me it feels sharper, a bit more faster and as I said a bit more stable.

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          • hellnbakH Offline
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            Well, if I can find something that will let me easily and quickly adjust my shadow positions (like Model Location does in R8) I might give it another try. That's assuming that one of the methods suggested let's me open my models in R8 if I want to (without having to reinstall it, that's just too much hassle).
            Knowing me, I'll probably end up just staying with the old tried and true version. The only reason I decided to finally give it a try was a couple of plugins that sounded interesting that wouldn't work on the old version.
            Old dogs, new tricks, yadda yadda yadda 😆

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            • sketch3d.deS Offline
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              @hellnbak said:

              Can somebody explain to me the advantages of switching to R14?

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              • ely862meE Offline
                ely862me
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                Actually it should be from v8 to v2014 which is more than that.

                I wish I could help you, in 15 minutes it would all be set and good to go.

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                • JQLJ Offline
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                  The hassle you had making all this posts was greater than the hassle you would have using 2014... With some added bonus to 2014 side!

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                  • andybotA Offline
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                    I say keep using v8! If it works mostly, why break it. I'm still waiting for features that would make it worth parting with my hard-earned cash. Neither came in 2013 or 2014.

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                    • N Offline
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                      @hellnbak said:

                      Can somebody explain to me the advantages of switching to R14?

                      i can tell you some disadvantages...

                      • Bigger Icons = less space without any benefit (only more grey around the icons and it looks untidier to me)
                      • the photomatch window is now wider than the other windows for no (visible) reason, the content is the same as before.

                      I have installed v2014 and v8 now and i'm still using v8.

                      There where no reason to upgrade for me (besides the annoying toolbar issues where the fix is now sold as feature...) but i did it before the upgrade price jumped from 73€ to 113€ a few months ago!

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                      • BoxB Offline
                        Box
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                        And it didn't take long for this to turn into yet another old versus new thread, the other main reason why people think there are bugs.

                        Helln', use what you are comfortable with and move on when you want. (and when you do be prepared to learn some new things.)

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                        • andybotA Offline
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                          @box said:

                          the other main reason why people think there are bugs.

                          (oh right - the thread subject. I agree that is a mistaken way to think about it)

                          As far as I can tell, We're now talking about advantages and disadvantages. Yes, plugins install in a different way (which makes a lot of sense to me, and in the event I update to the latest version, I'll have to go through and reinstall all my plugins following the very clearly spelled out guidlines.) which will take time to work through in a new install.

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                          • sketch3d.deS Offline
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                            @andybot said:

                            I'm still waiting for features that would make it worth...

                            what features could this be... i.e. would you upgrade if e.g. a 64-bit version would be avail?

                            or no way if high-poly count support, subdivision modeling, nurbs modeling and brewing a yummy latte macchiato is not included 😄

                            just wondering

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                            • andybotA Offline
                              andybot
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                              @sketch3d.de said:

                              @andybot said:

                              I'm still waiting for features that would make it worth...

                              what features could this be... i.e. would you upgrade if e.g. a 64-bit version would be avail?

                              or no way if high-poly count support, subdivision modeling, nurbs modeling and brewing a yummy latte macchiato is not included 😄

                              just wondering

                              In fact, the main reason has been that commercial use is permitted with v8 free. There just hasn't been anything I've come across that I haven't been able to do with the tools and plugins that are already available in v8. When there's a swell new tool, or some workflow that I can't get in v8, then I'm all ears. My modeling needs are not very complex (mainly square architecture) While bells and whistles may be fun for playing, I'm careful how I spend my money on my actual needs. For quite some time now, I've spent it only on donating to plugin authors.

                              Edit: oh yeah, and I don't use layout. ACAD is better for my needs.

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                              • jiminy-billy-bobJ Offline
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                                @hellnbak said:

                                Can somebody explain to me the advantages of switching to R14?

                                Here you go :

                                @hellnbak said:

                                plugins that sounded interesting that wouldn't work on the old version.

                                There will be more and more plugins only available in 2014+.

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                                • Dave RD Offline
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                                  Is there any software anywhere that is "bug free"? I doubt it.

                                  I think SU2014 has fewer bugs than SU7 or SU8 but Kurt, your post makes it sound as if you're reluctant to learn even a few new things like easier ways to install new plugins. Maybe you should just stick with SU7 and not trouble yourself.

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                                  • hellnbakH Offline
                                    hellnbak
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                                    Dang it, I reinstalled R14. Decided I should stop being a stubborn old fart and give it a decent chance.

                                    One nice thing - I seem to now have a choice as to which SU version I open my models with
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                                    even though both are called Sketchup 2014, if I choose the one with the old icon it opens with R8. Strange, but I'll take it. Didn't have that option before.

                                    Now I've got to see if I can come up with something to easily manipulate my shadows.

                                    Sorry for all the controversy this thread has stirred up. Didn't mean for that to happen.

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                                    • Rich O BrienR Offline
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                                      • hellnbakH Offline
                                        hellnbak
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                                        @rich o brien said:

                                        Steve's had an enema!

                                        🤣

                                        "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                        • KrisidiousK Offline
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                                          I was reluctant to upgrade as I saw nothing worth paying more money for and losing some of my most used plugins. Then Skalp came along and gave me a reason to upgrade.

                                          If you're into Layout there are some tools for architecture there that will make you feel good about the choice. labeling, hatch patterns, speed and stability improvements.

                                          As for SU2014? I gained hidden line style, a classifier system that I don't use and it seems no one else does either, I lost some plugins, had to go through and reinstall everything, had to come up with new custom toolbar solution... After all that I'm back to normal minus a few plugins.

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                                          • sketch3d.deS Offline
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                                            @krisidious said:

                                            ...I saw nothing worth paying more money for...

                                            btw, 145.- U$ for jumping from v8 to v10 (aka 2014)... the bug fixes and improvements of existing functions are already worth this 'effort'.

                                            jm2cts,

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