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    • O Offline
      oo7ml
      last edited by

      Hi,

      My model has 20 scenes. I want to go back and change the camera position on each scene, however when i update the scene, i'm given the following options:

      A - Update Selected Style
      B - Save As A New Style
      C - Do Nothing

      I don't really understand what this means.

      Q1 - if i choose A, what exactly am i updating in my scene?

      Q2 - if i choose B, what are the downfalls of save as a new style?

      Q3 - why is the option to 'Do Nothing' here, is this the same as clicking a cancel button?

      Thanks in advance for your help.

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      • Rich O BrienR Online
        Rich O Brien Moderator
        last edited by

        It is all related to Styles.

        If you change your Style between scenes it detects such and prompts you.

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        • JQLJ Offline
          JQL
          last edited by

          You can have multiple styles in a model and SU is asking what you want to do with the current displayed style.

          Read what Rich advised you and then your best bet might be to choose to do nothing and also something like "never show this again..."

          Then you can configure your styles manually, apply a style to a scene or multiple scenes and update the scenes. After that, if you change that style in one scene, you'll change it in all scenes, making a coherent look between several scenes.

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          • cottyC Offline
            cotty
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            @jql said:

            ...if you change that style in one scene, you'll change it in all scenes, making a coherent look between several scenes.

            Sometime this may be unwanted, if this is the case, option B should be chosen.

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            • O Offline
              oo7ml
              last edited by

              Thanks all. I still find it confusing as to why it asks these questions especially when i am not changing anything to do with Styles. I am purely only changing the Camera Location, however if i change my camera locations and then click 'Do Nothing' all of my camera locations are not saved when i open the file back up.

              So maybe Camera Locations are attached to Styles?

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              • JQLJ Offline
                JQL
                last edited by

                No, Cameral locations are attched to scenes. But you can save a scene without a camera location being saved on "Scenes Manager's" details section. There you can set that scene not to save cameras.

                You change styles on the fly if you use any of the options in the "View Menu", and that's why it's asking you if you want to save your changes.

                There are several ways of changing those options:

                • From the styles toolbar;
                • From shortcuts (like "K");
                • From the styles manager (wich is where you should set your styles library and fine tune your styles);

                Frequent style changes are face modes and edge modes, display sections or not.

                Change any of those style properties and SU will ask if you want to save styles...

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                • O Offline
                  oo7ml
                  last edited by

                  Ok, so would updating the existing style not seem like the best option.

                  I still find this confusing πŸ˜„

                  I guess i should do more research on styles πŸ˜„

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                  • Dave RD Offline
                    Dave R
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                    If you update the existing style you will change the style in other scenes that already use it. That may be alright but maybe it isn't. It depends on what you want and what the changes are. On the other hand, it doesn't make sense to simply create a new style every time you create a new scene. You can then wind up with a bunch of styles that have the exact same settings.

                    The best thing to do is pay attention to the changes you make that affect the style. Maybe you've already got a style with those settings and you can use it instead of creating a new style. If you keep the Styles window open while you work, you can see if you made changes to the current style before you create a scene. The thumbnail for the current style will show circular arrows if it has been modified without updating.

                    Note that shadow settings are scene settings but displaying hidden geometry is a style settting. Those two are frequently overlooked.

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                    • JQLJ Offline
                      JQL
                      last edited by

                      I think Dave meant that Shadow settings and Hidden Geometry are Scene settings, they don't affect styles.

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                      • Dave RD Offline
                        Dave R
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                        Hidden geometry is a style setting. You can see that by watching the current style thumbnail change when you turn hidden geometry on and off. πŸ˜’

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                        • JQLJ Offline
                          JQL
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                          Sorry Dave,

                          Of course you're right. I was mislead into confusing "Hidden Geometry" with "Hidden Geometry" by your association with "Shadow Settings" wich won't affect styles but scenes, as you mentioned.

                          • There is a "Hidden Geometry" setting for styles, wich toggles the display of hidden geometry (this makes changes to styles);
                          • There is a "Hidden Geometry" setting for scenes, wich remembers geometry you've hidden in a given scene.

                          They shouldn't be confused πŸ˜„

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                          • Dave RD Offline
                            Dave R
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                            Seriously? What would make you confuse those?

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                              JQL
                              last edited by

                              @dave r said:

                              Seriously? What would make you confuse those?

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