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    • B Offline
      Blippy
      last edited by

      Hi, maybe this should be in the newbie forum, but I figured here would be a smidge more specific.

      I've been going through hours of grief trying to convert an .ai image into a 3D object. I ended up converting it to .dxf successfully (eventually!) and get the basic 2D shapes into SU without any problems. However I've had untold horrors once I push/pull everything into different heights with various faces being reversed or not in a seemingly random way. I figured there must be tiny gaps, so started Welding all the edges but that became incredibly time consuming. Then I stumbled on Fredo6 Edge inspector which beautifully put lovely pink circles (polygons?) around all the gazillions of non-welded gaps (?) that I was trying to fix.

      However, whenever I choose FIX, the whole thing crashes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x00000000e2116abe

      I'm on a MacBook Pro running OSX 10.9.4 with SU Pro 2014 (14.0.4899). It makes no difference if I select a small area - say a single shape - and run the fix on it, it still crashes. I then tried to use the Joint Push/Pull tool to see if that would skin the cat slightly differently, however then it crashes with a similar Kernel error.

      The extrude push/pull has better manners and just throws the following error without killing SU:

      Date: 04-Sep-14 00:38:53
      An error occurred in Extrude Push Pull
      Error in generation of the geometry

      undefined method `smooth?' for nil:NilClass

      JointPushPullGeometry.rb:: 1107 -- block in geometry_coplanar_edges_overhang
      JointPushPullGeometry.rb:: 1105 -- each
      JointPushPullGeometry.rb:: 1105 -- each_with_index
      JointPushPullGeometry.rb:: 1105 -- geometry_coplanar_edges_overhang
      JointPushPullGeometry.rb:: 354 -- block in geometry_robot_erase_coplanar_edges
      JointPushPullGeometry.rb:: 352 -- each
      JointPushPullGeometry.rb:: 352 -- geometry_robot_erase_coplanar_edges
      JointPushPullGeometry.rb:: 214 -- robot_call_action
      JointPushPullGeometry.rb:: 177 -- geometry_robot_exec
      JointPushPullGeometry.rb:: 160 -- geometry_robot
      JointPushPullGeometry.rb:: 75 -- block in geometry_execute
      Lib6Operation.rb:: 317 -- call
      Lib6Operation.rb:: 317 -- step_geometry
      Lib6Operation.rb:: 278 -- block in yield?
      -e:: 1 -- call

      Any and all help gratefully received!

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      • fredo6F Offline
        fredo6
        last edited by

        You must have a complication in the model, maybe due to the import of DXF.
        Then acting on the geometry, scripts may end up crashing when trying to update it.

        The best is to post the model so that we can have a look.

        Fredo

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        • Dave RD Offline
          Dave R
          last edited by

          It sounds like your model has issues that are causing SketchUp to crash when you run the fix routine in Edge Inspector. You could confirm this by running Fix on a simple model. If the problem is due to Edge Inspector, you should still see the crash. Otherwise I would be looking at the model.

          Perhaps you can simplify the model to identify what geometry is causing the problem. Or maybe if you scale the model up by perhaps a factor 100, the tiny gaps you've created can be filled during the fix. Maybe you could share the model so we can see what you've got to start with.

          Etaoin Shrdlu

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          • B Offline
            Blippy
            last edited by

            Thanks for the help guys. I've spent the morning removing all the other plugins to see if there was a clash - but to no avail, so it is helpful for you to have zoomed in so quickly on the model as the problem. I scaled it up by 100 and ran the tool - at first it didn't detect any gaps, but then I bumped the threshold up to it's max and it only picked up 3 or 4, which seemed good enough to test. But just as the fix was nearly finished and my hopes were soaring - Bug Splat!!

            Here's the model, which is still just a 2D jobby at this stage - one I'm slowly (?) growing to hate πŸ˜‰

            Thanks again for such quick, pertinent, friendly suggestions.


            The horror... the horror...

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            • B Offline
              Blippy
              last edited by

              Test... my reply and upload don't seem to have materialised.

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              • massimoM Offline
                massimo Moderator
                last edited by

                @blippy said:

                Test... my reply and upload don't seem to have materialised.

                A couple of first posts by new members have to be approved by a moderator.

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                • B Offline
                  Blippy
                  last edited by

                  Ah! That explains it. Thanks.

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                  • fredo6F Offline
                    fredo6
                    last edited by

                    @blippy,

                    I tried the model but got no bugsplat.

                    The model is clearly full of defects, in particular very small edges (some below 0.01 mm). So it is quite interesting because it pushed EdgeInspector to the limits.

                    This helped me to find a few problems in EdgeInspector which I have fixed and will publish in a new release.

                    In the meantime, here is a cleaner version of the file. I scaled it up by x10 before using EdgeInspector.

                    Blippy - acb take 12 x10.skp

                    By the way, have you tried thomthom's CleanUp plugin on your model, with the "repair Edges" feature?

                    Fredo

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                    • tt_suT Offline
                      tt_su
                      last edited by

                      Do you get the BugSplat dialog or the Apple crash dialog?

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                      • B Offline
                        Blippy
                        last edited by

                        Wow - thanks Fredo!! That all seems to be behaving itself now. Yes, I've tried Thomthom's CleanUp - but I couldn't detect any improvements with it - although that may have more to do with me having little idea of what to expect/look for. I've been trawling the plugin world fairly intensively trying to find something that would work and your magical Edge Inspector was the closest I got to a solution. So, many thanks for your plugin(s), and many thanks for being generous enough to also help me individually with my problem. I'm sort of a little bit glad I managed to inadvertently given you a challenge that made it all a little more worth while (hopefully) πŸ˜‰

                        Thanks again!

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                        • B Offline
                          Blippy
                          last edited by

                          @tt_su said:

                          Do you get the BugSplat dialog or the Apple crash dialog?

                          Oh, Hi - I was getting both.

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                          • tt_suT Offline
                            tt_su
                            last edited by

                            Did you submit the BugSplat? If you did - and provided some description, name or email, then I can use that to look it up and perhaps get any idea of where it crashed.

                            (In general, please submit any BugSplats - even the ones you have sent before. For first time crashes, please include some info about what happened prior to the crash.)

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                            • B Offline
                              Blippy
                              last edited by

                              @tt_su said:

                              Did you submit the BugSplat? If you did - and provided some description, name or email, then I can use that to look it up and perhaps get any idea of where it crashed.

                              (In general, please submit any BugSplats - even the ones you have sent before. For first time crashes, please include some info about what happened prior to the crash.)

                              Oh, ok, I didn't realise there was any action I could do - certainly no menu items or submit reportbuttons that I noticed... is there a log I can post that would be helpful?

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                              • BoxB Offline
                                Box
                                last edited by

                                You have raw geometry on the wrong layer.
                                Move it to layer0 and your model will work.

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                                • B Offline
                                  Blippy
                                  last edited by

                                  @box said:

                                  You have raw geometry on the wrong layer.
                                  Move it to layer0 and your model will work.

                                  Ooooh... and there was I wondering just last night what all this layer business is about in sketchup! Obviously I can have a dig to find out more, but if you are able to point me to a nice SU Layers 101 I'd appreciate it. And hopefully it will tell me how to move raw (as opposed to cooked?) geometry!!

                                  This process is proving far more educational than I imagined πŸ˜‰

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                                  • Dave RD Offline
                                    Dave R
                                    last edited by

                                    Here's most of what you need to know about using layers in SketchUp.
                                    http://help.sketchup.com/en/article/38572

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                                    • B Offline
                                      Blippy
                                      last edited by

                                      @dave r said:

                                      Here's most of what you need to know about using layers in SketchUp.
                                      http://help.sketchup.com/en/article/38572

                                      Ah, very nifty. Thanks again!!

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                                      • tt_suT Offline
                                        tt_su
                                        last edited by

                                        @blippy said:

                                        Oh, ok, I didn't realise there was any action I could do - certainly no menu items or submit reportbuttons that I noticed... is there a log I can post that would be helpful?

                                        The BugSplat dialog has a button to Send. And a textarea to enter description.

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                                        • B Offline
                                          Blippy
                                          last edited by

                                          @tt_su said:

                                          @blippy said:

                                          Oh, ok, I didn't realise there was any action I could do - certainly no menu items or submit reportbuttons that I noticed... is there a log I can post that would be helpful?

                                          The BugSplat dialog has a button to Send. And a textarea to enter description.

                                          That hasn't been my experience of BugSplat. Whenever SU has crashed I've only been aware of BugSplat when I cycle through my open apps (squiggle-tab) and the BugSplat icon (very cute btw) is in the list. When I select it there is no dialog or text box, just the generic OSX menu with zero functionality - certainly nothing like what you describe.

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                                          • Dave RD Offline
                                            Dave R
                                            last edited by

                                            That's what I get on my Mac when SketchUp crashes, too. Thankfully it is extremely rare but I am never able to send in those splat reports. Some folks do get the Splat window on Mac, though. No idea what's different about ours though.

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