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      sanjeevkmishra
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      Has anyone facing problem with vary?? I upgraded to SU2014, reinstalled vray but its not working... Has anybody got any suggestion???


      Screen Shot 2014-03-01 at 6.04.54 pm.png

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      • BoxB Offline
        Box
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        Vray issue addressed in this thread.
        http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=322%26amp;t=56468

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        • cottyC Offline
          cotty
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          @3dita said:

          One thing that had got simpler in 2013 (plugin installation) has become a new nuisance, because the plugin folder has changed position...

          There were hundreds of problems discussed in this forum because of missing permissions for the plugin folder. The change seems a good way to solve all those problems?! If you use one of the two recommended ways to install plugins (Pluginstore or Extension Warehouse) you will not even notice the change...

          my SketchUp gallery

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            sanjeevkmishra
            last edited by

            @box said:

            Vray issue addressed in this thread.
            http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=322%26amp;t=56468

            thnx

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              jpalm32
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              @krisidious said:

              Still tiny ass thumbnails in components and material browsers... what the hell people?

              Still no improvements to how to print as in the 21st century.
              Adjust the window to size of print/scale??? Really?

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                arail1
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                @mitcorb said:

                @arail1:
                The Plugin menu button does not appear on the Menu ribbon until you install a fresh plugin. This is something not yet documented in the Knowledge Center help.sketchup.com (so far as I know), nor has anyone explicitly enough included this in the threads I have read. Of course, you do know that the plugin destination folder is now under "...AppData...Roaming" and this path has been explained.

                I might mention that, in order to see a couple of plugin toolbars after loading, I had to restart 2014. But this also happened a few times in 2013version. And they weren't simply lurking among my desktop icons. No big complaints.

                Thanks for that.
                Because so much of the chatter on the forums is about plugins and installing plugins, it might be wise for someone knowledgeable to post a sticky that summarizes all the useful info that's scattered throughout these threads - where to install them, the info you provided about the Plugin button, etc.

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                  d12dozr
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                  @pixero said:

                  What about upgrade price from SU8? I haven't seen any info about it yet.

                  Jan, it's $95 for a single license upgrade from SU8. More info here: Upgrading to SketchUp Pro 2014

                  3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                  http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                    Pixero
                    last edited by

                    Thanks. Now I have to talk to my boss...

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                      rv1974
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                      no windowizer, no chuck vally plugins, no 1001bit tools.. and many others
                      Trimble what have you done??? I can understand you were busy developing revolutionary new arc tool but why to ruin the other people done 😡

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                      • cottyC Offline
                        cotty
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                        So you would suggest to stick with an old Ruby because not all old plugins work on the first day after this update? Most of the plugins were updated in the background in the last month (BIG thank you to the authors), some are repaired in the last few days (e.g. flattery) and perhaps the remaining will follow in the next days...

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                          Jim
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                          Maybe we need a "Report 2014 Broken Plugins Here" topic to consolidate and track these problems?

                          Hi

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                            rv1974
                            last edited by

                            @cotty said:

                            So you would suggest to stick with an old Ruby because not all old plugins work on the first day after this update? Most of the plugins were updated in the background in the last month (BIG thank you to the authors), some are repaired in the last few days (e.g. flattery) and perhaps the remaining will follow in the next days...

                            It' obvious- I'd suggest some kind of support for plugins that people use for years.
                            P.S. and I forgot to reply: this release.. is one huge dissappointment!

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                            • FrederikF Offline
                              Frederik
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                              @rv1974 said:

                              ...this release.. is one huge dissappointment!

                              Why...?
                              What did you expect...?

                              Cheers
                              Kim Frederik

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                              • arail1A Offline
                                arail1
                                last edited by

                                I'm curious - if this is SketchUp 2014, does that mean we won't see anything substantial until 2015? No actual curves, simple nurbs, ability to zoom in to close tolerances, whatever might be on your personal wishlist for SketchUp development? Not much change since Trimble took over. We keep hearing about 'under the hood' - must be some mighty engine down there by now.

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                                  mitcorb
                                  last edited by

                                  @arail1 said:

                                  @mitcorb said:

                                  @arail1:
                                  The Plugin menu button does not appear on the Menu ribbon until you install a fresh plugin. This is something not yet documented in the Knowledge Center help.sketchup.com (so far as I know), nor has anyone explicitly enough included this in the threads I have read. Of course, you do know that the plugin destination folder is now under "...AppData...Roaming" and this path has been explained.

                                  I might mention that, in order to see a couple of plugin toolbars after loading, I had to restart 2014. But this also happened a few times in 2013version. And they weren't simply lurking among my desktop icons. No big complaints.

                                  Thanks for that.
                                  Because so much of the chatter on the forums is about plugins and installing plugins, it might be wise for someone knowledgeable to post a sticky that summarizes all the useful info that's scattered throughout these threads - where to install them, the info you provided about the Plugin button, etc.

                                  I totally agree with your suggestion for a sticky (it may already be in place). In trying to deduce an answer to a question with sketchy diverse information, you are faced with myriad decision points, of which most will be dead end, backwater tributaries. This situation causes myriad doubts, then inaction.
                                  Some people need just a little information, and thrive on accidental discovery. Others, like me, need just a little more explanation. I prefer unambiguous instructions. But ambiguity is a relative term.

                                  I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                                    ilay7k
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                                    @frederik said:

                                    @rv1974 said:

                                    ...this release.. is one huge dissappointment!

                                    Why...?
                                    What did you expect...?

                                    I agree with such statement: Skippy is primitive tool with minimum options.
                                    So main dev.team is keeping it.

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                                      rv1974
                                      last edited by

                                      @frederik said:

                                      @rv1974 said:

                                      ...this release.. is one huge dissappointment!

                                      Why...?
                                      What did you expect...?

                                      never-ending mantra:
                                      x64, hi(er)-poly support, real curves, dynamic components for dumb architects (not programmers), saving in background, BIM toolls, bug fixing...
                                      P.S. don't bother to explain there's no gain in productivity with x64

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                                      • FrederikF Offline
                                        Frederik
                                        last edited by

                                        @rv1974 said:

                                        never-ending mantra:
                                        x64, hi(er)-poly support, real curves, dynamic components for dumb architects (not programmers), saving in background, BIM toolls, bug fixing...
                                        P.S. don't bother to explain there's no gain in productivity with x64

                                        x64
                                        I'd also love this... I see all the benefits, especially with render applications, which are working within SU...
                                        Unfortunately - and as you've mentioned yourself - there seem to be a reticence towards making it x64...

                                        hi(er)-poly support
                                        Hhmmm... I already feel it's been made better...
                                        Personally I don't need much better poly support...

                                        real curves
                                        Although my knowledge in this area is somehow limited, I don't know any other 3D app. having real curves, nor do I see the need...
                                        AutoCAD and Revit doesn't have real curves (as far as I know) and I believe the compatibility with other applications (in particular the option to export to DWG format) also limits the option for this...

                                        dynamic components for dumb architects (not programmers)
                                        I'm not a programmer myself, but it really isn't that difficult to make a dynamic component...
                                        Can you give some examples of what it is you want to achieve and how you would like it to be...?

                                        saving in background
                                        Not sure I understand this... 😕

                                        BIM toolls
                                        I don't have the need - yet - however, it's my understanding that the new Classifier tool is a step in the BIM direction...

                                        bug fixing
                                        I already see a lot of bug fixing has been made...
                                        Anything in particular you want to highlight...?

                                        I find it a little funny that you don't seem to have posted any of these wishes previously...

                                        Cheers
                                        Kim Frederik

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                                          veerlexyz
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                                          Clayton49,
                                          Installing 1001Bit Pro was very easy and everything works perfect.

                                          Others,
                                          Libfredo6 keeps "Uninstalled" in the list "My Extensions" in "Extension Warehouse" although it is working. I could not install it with the Extension Warehouse but used the .rbz file instead. Same with Fredo Scale and Fredo Tools. These ones were not visible in Sketchup untill I turned the programm off and on again. Although they stay marked "Uninstalled" in "Extension Warehouse" the plugins do work fine.
                                          My other plugins seem to work. Not done them all...

                                          Time to just work with the new Sketchup Pro 2014. So far it looks nice!
                                          Thanks! And thanks to all of you who have rewritten your much appreciated plugins!

                                          I 'm pleased to have the "Large tool set" back on his fixed place on the left like it was in Sketchup 8 and earlier. It works so much easier!

                                          Veerle

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                                          • TommyKT Offline
                                            TommyK
                                            last edited by

                                            Personally, I am loving the direction that Sketchup is taking. Not everything that I wished for is coming true, but I have renewed hope that they may be fulfilled in future.

                                            The things I love (and some improvement suggestions):

                                            Layout:

                                            • Smart labels. Love it, BUT - There is an issue here for nested components/groups and geometries. A feature to toggle through the nesting levels would be very cool. For example, you may want the area of a face within a component, but you can't get the area, because it's in a component. Imagine pressing up or down keys on creation of a label to toggle through the label types. Also, lack of integration with text added using the "Classify" (and Component Options dialog) tool is a massive opportunity missed.
                                            • Autotext! It's brilliant. I think the settings for this should be added as a window pane - could be very useful for annotating things like <insulation spec>. If the insulation thickness changes in the project, just change the autotext, and all instances are updated.

                                            Sketchup:

                                            • faster shadows - well, you're not going to be displeased by that, are you?

                                            • Classify / IFC - it sounds very boring, but actually, this feature really makes the building and sharing of Sketchup models in a standard way very useful. I hope this helps Sketchup be taken more seriously among other building professionals. I don't think I still understand the full implications of this feature - I am waiting for an evangelist to sell this to me fully.

                                            More thoughts on Classify / IFC:
                                            I have been waiting a while for attributes to be integrated into the entity info pane, and I think this does help to do it, albeit in a standardised way. Check out the "Component Options" dialog to see the full feature set.

                                            I have checked out how you might make a new standard "type": http://help.sketchup.com/en/article/3000045

                                            It troubles me that it is not friendly to the lay user to create new standards/workflows in the area of attribute mapping. Perhaps this is a good thing, which forces users to stick to and become familiar with the industry standards. What does everyone else think?

                                            Also, this feature should have been integrated with LayOut's smart labels....

                                            But in conclusion - more BIM, a smarter Layout - it's going in the right direction in my book.

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