[Plugin] Components manager plugin

[glro]

@inteloide said:

Hello,

I hope this is more clear for you, if not, please do not hesitate to reply

i downloaded the plugin, but i don't understand how to use it

I have a model made of components, but the components manager window is empty, i don't understand how to use the icons below

could you describe step by step how to use the plugin, with a simple, from the blank sketchup window?

[inteloide]

ok, I will try to make a little video (but not today).

Normally, when you open a model, the widow shoud not be empty. If it's the case, an error has occured. May I ask to run the ruby consol, open a model and send me the consol error (if there is...)
Also, I insist, for sure on Mac it should not work, as I don't know how Mac filesystem works. If required, I could spend more time on this, if a Mac user help to verify it works.

For the icons below, from right to left (you can have help with keeping mouse on icon):
-Update the list (you may try this if your Windows is empty)
-Select in Sketchup the component selected in the list
-Change component path to the file
-Save selected component
-Upload selected component from file
-Save all components
-Upload all components from files
-Options
-About

[glro]

@inteloide said:

ok, I will try to make a little video (but not today).

Normally, when you open a model, the widow shoud not be empty. If it's the case, an error has occured. May I ask to run the ruby consol, open a model and send me the consol error (if there is...)

i get this error message in the console ruby

Error: #<NameError: uninitialized constant BGSketchup_Composants::Initialise_les_observers>
C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/BGSketchup/Composants/Rb/Composants_Main.rb:482:in `onOpenModel'
C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/BGSketchup/Composants/Rb/Composants_Main.rb:482

with another model:

Error: #<NameError: uninitialized constant BGSketchup_Composants::Initialise_les_observers>
C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/BGSketchup/Composants/Rb/Composants_Main.rb:482:in `onOpenModel'
C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/BGSketchup/Composants/Rb/Composants_Main.rb:474

[inteloide]

Hello Glro,

I just put another version with the bug corrected.
Actually, I have shortcut on my computer to skp file, I don't use File/Open from sketchup, and, of course..., ther was a bug Inside the procedure when openning.
Please try and tells me if it's ok now.

[glro]

@inteloide said:

ok, I will try to make a little video (but not today).

Normally, when you open a model, the widow shoud not be empty.
...
For the icons below, from right to left (you can have help with keeping mouse on icon):
-Update the list (you may try this if your Windows is empty)

i downloaded v 1.3

i don't have error message when loading a model , but the window is still empty

if i clic on the further left button (update the list), i get this error message in the console ruby

Error: #<NoMethodError: undefined method entities' for #<Sketchup::ComponentInstance:0xde80050>> C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/BGSketchup/Composants/Rb/Composants_Main.rb:63:in liste_composants'
C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/BGSketchup/Composants/Rb/Composants_Main.rb:44:in maj_liste' C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/BGSketchup/Composants/Rb/Composants_Main.rb:43:in each'
C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/BGSketchup/Composants/Rb/Composants_Main.rb:43:in maj_liste' C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/BGSketchup/Composants/Rb/Composants_Main.rb:24:in demarrer'
C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/BGSketchup/Composants/Rb/Composants_Main.rb:63:in `call'
C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/BGSketchup/Composants/Rb/Composants_Main.rb:63

[inteloide]

Hello Glro,

It looks like you ran the plugin in SU 2013, in which I didn't try.
But I tried it and correct the error you had. Please download new version 1.3.1, which now works on SU 2013.
Thank for keeping me in touch.

[glro]

@inteloide said:

Hello Glro,

It looks like you ran the plugin in SU 2013, in which I didn't try.
But I tried it and correct the error you had. Please download new version 1.3.1, which now works on SU 2013.
Thank for keeping me in touch.

I use SU 8

With the new version of your plugin, i get a list clicking on the further left button of your popup window

But when i clic ont he next button to the right, the elected components don't match with the name in the window

Tne component name selected should be KLC4, but it selects KEMB
The same with KLC1: selects KEMB

which happens to be in first position in your window...

I tried the other buttons, but since i don't understand what thaey stand for, i cannot say much

the 3rd from the right gives this error message:

Error: #<NoMethodError: undefined method entities' for #<Sketchup::ComponentInstance:0xc9888f0>> C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/BGSketchup/Composants/Rb/Composants_Main.rb:332:in upload'
C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/BGSketchup/Composants/Rb/Composants_Main.rb:317:in recharger_definitions' C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/BGSketchup/Composants/Rb/Composants_Main.rb:316:in each'
C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/BGSketchup/Composants/Rb/Composants_Main.rb:316:in recharger_definitions' C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/BGSketchup/Composants/Rb/Composants_Main.rb:28:in demarrer'
C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/BGSketchup/Composants/Rb/Composants_Main.rb:332:in `call'
C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/BGSketchup/Composants/Rb/Composants_Main.rb:332

[Elibjr]

Hi Inteloide,
Wow this looks promising. It reminds me of TIG's Xref tool. I won't be able to try it for a couple days but for a person who uses "offsite" components because I tend to edit them separately, this is like the Xref tool on steroids. Thank you! EB.

[inteloide]

@elibjr said:

Hi Inteloide,
Wow this looks promising. It reminds me of TIG's Xref tool. I won't be able to try it for a couple days but for a person who uses "offsite" components because I tend to edit them separately, this is like the Xref tool on steroids. Thank you! EB.

Thank you for these encouragements ! I hope it will works 100% soon.

Glro : I corrected bugs thank to your PM. Now it works ok on version 1.3.2.
ACTUALLY, EVERYBODY WHO DOWNLOADED V1.3.1 SHOULD DOWNLOAD V1.3.2, because bug was consequent : the selected element doesn't match the real element in some cases.

Glro, thank to your sample, I think that the best would be also to have the possibility to collapse all instances in the same list element to reduce the number of lines in the list.
Maybe something like :
(4) KPI3
(6) KPI4
...
instead of ahving 4 times KPI3 and 6 times KPI4.

=> I try to add this function at same time than help file.

[glro]

@inteloide said:

Glro : I corrected bugs thank to your PM. Now it works ok on version 1.3.2.
.. I think that the best would be also to have the possibility to collapse all instances in the same list element to reduce the number of lines in the list.
Maybe something like :
(4) KPI3
(6) KPI4
...
instead of ahving 4 times KPI3 and 6 times KPI4.

=> I try to add this function at same time than help file.

v1.3.2 works on my computer; the selected component matches the one selected in the window

i tried the buttons, with a model made of components

the 4th one from the left launches a popup window proposing to register the component again

if i do so, its name turns to green in the window

but i don't understand how useful it can be

if i close this model and begin a new one from scratch, the component definitions remain in the window... i have to close it and open it again to refresh

if i drag components into the sketchup window, their name in the component manager window are written in orange, no link is made...

i don't understand; maybe the help document you prepare will be useful

[JQL]

Inteloide,

I've been wanting something like this forever. Even if I don't deal with mechanic enginnering the amount of components and xrefs I use is very hard to manage with native SU tools.

I'll give it a spin immediately and tell you about it's usage and any bugs I find out.

Thanks and best regards,

EDIT: I noticed only 5 downloads this is not consistent with the usefulness of your plugin. Did you try publishing it in Sketchucation Plugin Store. There is a form for that and that can get you a whole lot more downloads...

JQL

[inteloide]

Thank you JQL, that make me "boost".

Two things :

• I wanted to post officially the plugin when working 100% ok. Glro already help me on that even if I desesperate to explain how useful the plugin could be.
  -I cannot find where to post a plugin, I looked in the pluginstore but couldn't find easily... I'll ask SketchUcation team how to proceed.

After some feedback and maybe 2-3 improvment I have in my mind and I will officially post it. Hope this will be done for end of week.

In few seconds, I post the new version 1.4.0 with interesting updates :

Added : Options are now saved in My Documents folder instead of Inside Model

Added : Option to select automatically the instances in the model (yes by default)

Added : Number of instances of components beside component definition name, ex : toto (*3), means 3 instances in the branch of the list

Added : Plugin version in title for more traceability

Added : Update list when openning an existing file or creating a new file

Removed : Progress in Sketchup state bar (I will try in implement again later)

Removed : Old code for sub-menu options

Corrected : Error in observers for new model and open model

Corrected : Components in root of the model were duplicated in the list : not anymore

[Rich O Brien]

I'll add you to the Plugin Author group tomorrow and get this listed in the PluginStore

Thanks for sharing your plugin here

[inteloide]

ok thanks !

Just post version 1.4.1, as Win32API.so file is required, for option saving.
It didn't saw it as it was included on my computer with other plugin I have...

[glro]

@inteloide said:

ok thanks !

Just post version 1.4.1, as Win32API.so file is required, for option saving.
It didn't saw it as it was included on my computer with other plugin I have...

version 1.4.1 lists components as you wrote
here is a screen shot of my screen

All components came previously from my components folder

for the components written in green, I modified the definition path using the 3rd button from the left; that is why they are written in green

I didn't do it for the components written in orange

For this particular component written in orange, i tried to reload the existing definition, and failed...

Why is it necessary to create manually a new definition, anyway, since the address of the component is known (shown at the bottom of the window)?

Why is it that the plugin does not go directly to the adress of the component and check if it is up to date?

Maybe i don't understand well the definition of "definition"...

[inteloide]

Hello,

the plugin is made to update component without having to link (third button) each of them...so there is something strange.
If item is in orange, this means that he could not reach the file, and as you don't modify the component, the plugin didn't create a relative link. Therefore it lloks like the file is not reachable.
Could you send me the complete link (as show in bottom of the window, you can select it and copy it by right clicking on) and send me the real link (through windows explorer for example), to see what's going wrong.
The error may come from special characters...maybe.
Also, you can try to copy the link in bottom of the window to the windows explorer to see if the file is opening.
Thank you to make this trials !

[JQL]

Hi inteloide,

Great plugin you have here. Fills a lot of my needs for xref and component management in models.

I get a script error after trying to open a complex model in SU 2013.

When I start SU2013 it autoloads a template file with 2 components one is there because of a plugin.

If I open a particular existing file, with lots of components (618 Groups; 537 Component Definitions; 2548 Component Instances) I get a blank list where only those 2 previous components from the template file remain.

If I refresh the list using the first button, I get no update, the two components are still there and I get the following error message:

However there are other files where this doesn't happen and the list becomes full immediatelly when I open them.

The main difference I can remember between both files is that in the one that gives me the error I've been managing files/components with XREF manager plugin, from TIG.

There is no info on Ruby console.

If this info is not enough and you need something more, just tell me that I'll try to get it.

Thanks and congratulations on your excellent work.

Best regards,

JQL

[inteloide]

Hello, there is a problem with special characters. I tried it and it failed, so it's sure.
I will correct this and you will be able to try again to see it solve this issue.

[JQL]

You're right!

I took out all "àáéíóúâãõç" characters from component and group names and it's now showing what seems to be the full list of components and groups from my probmodel.

It's really fast in doing that too, so this might also be an outliner replacer... and if it is... you've made me a very happy SU user!

[inteloide]

There are errors when:
-component name include special characters
-file path include special characters

First one generate javascript issue => should be easy to repair
Second one involve issue in ruby coding : harder to solve... But I found a solution on this forum : I will try to correct using it.