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    • soloS Offline
      solo
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      I may have a solution to my mesh problem

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      http://www.solos-art.com

      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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      • Rich O BrienR Offline
        Rich O Brien Moderator
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        I have that tool. Not really gonna work completely.

        Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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        • soloS Offline
          solo
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          Rich, I pm'd a model for you to test.

          I was reluctant to send before as I assumed you may be a little busy and knackered after the arrival of the boys.

          http://www.solos-art.com

          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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          • Rich O BrienR Offline
            Rich O Brien Moderator
            last edited by

            Won't get at this short term. But will defo take a look and pass on whatever info I can.

            Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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            • arail1A Offline
              arail1
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              @solo said:

              I may have a solution to my mesh problem

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              Retopology tools have a different function than I think you're looking for. Create a high detail (high poly) character, texture it, light it, etc. Then bake all the maps down. Then 're-topologize' the high detail model with the retopology tool to make a low detail, low poly version and then apply the baked map to it. The result is a character with the visual look of the high detail model but having a small fraction of the poly count of the original.

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              • soloS Offline
                solo
                last edited by

                @arail1 said:

                @solo said:

                I may have a solution to my mesh problem

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                Retopology tools have a different function than I think you're looking for. Create a high detail (high poly) character, texture it, light it, etc. Then bake all the maps down. Then 're-topologize' the high detail model with the retopology tool to make a low detail, low poly version and then apply the baked map to it. The result is a character with the visual look of the high detail model but having a small fraction of the poly count of the original.

                What I was trying to do is get some of my SU created cartoon characters which are very heavy in SU into Blender cleaned up, rigged, posed and then 3D printed.

                http://www.solos-art.com

                If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                • L Offline
                  Lobster
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                  Hi,

                  You might be better off not trying to clean your mesh but just build a retopology on top of it even if you are not planning to bake maps. There are a few options, looks like you have found one of them, another is a shrinkwrap or bsurfaces but the failsafe way is just to use the snapping tools. I have done this a few times with MOI and sketchup models to build a proper deforming mesh for animation and doing the retopology allows you to concentrate on edge flow e.t.c.

                  Slow at first but done enough times it speeds up, just like anything, especially with the looptools and F2 addons.

                  Hope this helps.

                  Regards

                  Sam

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                  • arail1A Offline
                    arail1
                    last edited by

                    @solo said:

                    @arail1 said:

                    @solo said:

                    I may have a solution to my mesh problem

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                    Retopology tools have a different function than I think you're looking for. Create a high detail (high poly) character, texture it, light it, etc. Then bake all the maps down. Then 're-topologize' the high detail model with the retopology tool to make a low detail, low poly version and then apply the baked map to it. The result is a character with the visual look of the high detail model but having a small fraction of the poly count of the original.

                    What I was trying to do is get some of my SU created cartoon characters which are very heavy in SU into Blender cleaned up, rigged, posed and then 3D printed.

                    Oh. My misunderstanding. I thought the comment was about architecture, which would be a lot of work for a retopology tool.

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                    • arail1A Offline
                      arail1
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                      Hmm ... but if your end point is 3D printing I would think you're going to lose a lot of detail with a retopology tool.

                      But, aside from the issue of SketchUp to Blender, if you're talking about cartoon characters, you're going to love sub d modeling once you get the hang of it.

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                      • L Offline
                        Lobster
                        last edited by

                        If detail is what you are after you can use a multires modifier and shrinkwrap on the retopology. shrinkwrap setting project positive and negative.

                        Regards.

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                        • soloS Offline
                          solo
                          last edited by

                          @lobster said:

                          If detail is what you are after you can use a multires modifier and shrinkwrap on the retopology. shrinkwrap setting project positive and negative.

                          Regards.

                          I have just learned about retopology and when to use it, interesting stuff that. So much to learn....

                          So here I am thinking Z-Brush is the king at sculpting, and just discovered Blenders Dynotopo, WoW!!

                          Blender is awesome.

                          http://www.solos-art.com

                          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                          • michaliszissiouM Offline
                            michaliszissiou
                            last edited by

                            Blender sculpting methods are competitive to zbrush ones.
                            If this statement sounds like fanboyism you have to check it first.
                            http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:Ref/Release_Notes/2.66/Dynamic_Topology_Sculpting

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                            • soloS Offline
                              solo
                              last edited by

                              @michaliszissiou said:

                              Blender sculpting methods are competitive to zbrush ones.
                              If this statement sounds like fanboyism you have to check it first.
                              http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:Ref/Release_Notes/2.66/Dynamic_Topology_Sculpting

                              I have seen a lot of your sculptures on Blender, I'm very interested in the style you use, not sure if you are using some sort of displacement brush or new method, got a link to a tutorial? Those scifi looking things (do not know what to call them as they look like organic space ships)

                              http://www.solos-art.com

                              If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                              • michaliszissiouM Offline
                                michaliszissiou
                                last edited by

                                Oh, those scifi looking things?
                                Well, here is the huge thing LOL
                                http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?273033-Sculpting-with-UVs-and-displacements
                                How to align UVs on a geometrical texture. This is all about it.

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                                • pilouP Offline
                                  pilou
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                                  Yep this Blender Artist thread is an antology one and a pleasure for the eyes! β˜€
                                  Now more than 50 pages! And seems with no lilmit! πŸ’š

                                  by Michalis πŸ˜‰

                                  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24090090/Screen Shot 2013-08-08 at 4.20.44 PM.jpg

                                  The one who start this style was Gutalin with Zbrush πŸ˜‰ (who is not the same price than Blendy πŸ˜‰

                                  http://www.this-is-cool.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/alex-kozhanov/alex-kozhanov-gutalin-sci-fi-horror-machine-art.jpg

                                  Frenchy Pilou
                                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                  My Little site :)

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                                  • soloS Offline
                                    solo
                                    last edited by

                                    Okay, I did some leg work and believe I found a work around, I am still exploring how it all works but so far so good.

                                    Say you have an ugly mesh that you need to clean, simplify or turn to quads then use Z Brush or 3D Coat.

                                    Save model as an obj, open in 3D coat and hit autopo. It will fix holes, clean mesh and turn it into quads ready for 3D printing or use in another app like Blender, 3D Max etc as there are applinks.

                                    http://3d-coat.com/applinks/

                                    Image shows original ugly SU mesh and new fixed mesh (also reduced) when reimporting to SU it triangulates again but this time it's clean.

                                    retopo.jpg

                                    This is how the mesh is actually.

                                    wiley 3d coat.jpg

                                    Result.

                                    wiley SU.jpg

                                    http://www.solos-art.com

                                    If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                    • arail1A Offline
                                      arail1
                                      last edited by

                                      That's a good looking mesh. A question - was the 'ugly' mesh made in SketchUp / Artisan?

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                                      • soloS Offline
                                        solo
                                        last edited by

                                        @arail1 said:

                                        That's a good looking mesh. A question - was the 'ugly' mesh made in SketchUp / Artisan?

                                        Yeah, Artisan is awesome but it leaves a miserable mesh in it's wake.

                                        http://www.solos-art.com

                                        If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                        • pilouP Offline
                                          pilou
                                          last edited by

                                          You have also Qremesher in Zbrush who makes automatic quadrangles!
                                          Maybe the best tool at this day!

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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                                          • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                            jeff hammond
                                            last edited by

                                            @solo said:

                                            I'm learning Blender arse about face, doing fluids, then particles and fabric.
                                            I want to have fun learning.

                                            i think that's an ok approach.
                                            the only real trick is sticking with it..

                                            you got it this time

                                            dotdotdot

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