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    • S 離線
      Supreme Line
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      Hey All,

      Right I am building this ship okay, and these dots/spots keep showing up and its driving my crazy its on both sides. They show up when I for example create a square or something and at this rate by the time I finish the ship it be covered in dots grrrrrr....

      any help please ?


      proof of dots


      dots 2

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      • Rich O BrienR 離線
        Rich O Brien Moderator
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        Edges Bleeding Through Geometry | SketchUcation

        Sometimes you can see edges bleeding through geometry in SketchUp. In this tutorial, we explore the reasons and try to find solutions or workarounds for the problem.

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        • S 離線
          Supreme Line
          最後由 編輯

          This is not the problem, the ship is a empty shell nothing inside I thought it was the floor inside but its not so I clearly lost on this. Out of all my ships this is the very first time iv had this bother grrrr 😞

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          • Rich O BrienR 離線
            Rich O Brien Moderator
            最後由 編輯

            Floor touching the outside face?

            Turn on hidden geometry and post a pic

            And put a section there so we can see internals

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            • S 離線
              Supreme Line
              最後由 編輯

              her ya go


              Here is is, clear as day.


              Her is the inside (no floor) and its even inside.


              the highlight : if I delete it and then draw a square to fill it in once I move away from ship they appear again, its a loosing battle


              hidden geometry on no different

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              • Dave RD 離線
                Dave R
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                You didn't post an image with hidden geometry turned on. 😒 Post one with edges turned on, too.

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                • GaieusG 離線
                  Gaieus
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                  Even better; post the model itself...

                  Gai...

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                  • S 離線
                    Supreme Line
                    最後由 編輯

                    Gaieus you mean a picture right ?


                    full model


                    supremic 2.jpg

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                    • BoxB 離線
                      Box
                      最後由 編輯

                      No, he means the model or at least a section of it where the problem exists.
                      You can upload .skp files to your posts.

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                      • Dave RD 離線
                        Dave R
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                        I expect the dots you are seeing are cause by the back face color showing through at the seams but that's only a guess. You could try changing the back face color to white although it would probably show through somewhere else. You still haven't posted the requested screen grabs, though. 😒 The model (SKP) file would be best.

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                        • S 離線
                          Supreme Line
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                          I am not great designer btw

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                          • Dave RD 離線
                            Dave R
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                            As I suspected, it is the back face color showing through at seams. You can change the back face color to white and they won't show ion the white areas but they'll probably show in the areas you've painted black.

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                            I changed the back face color to magenta which makes your "dots" really stand out and confirms the problem. Turn the edges back one and those dots generally won't show because the edges will hide them.

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                            • TIGT 離線
                              TIG Moderator
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                              As Dave says...
                              What you are seeing is that the 'edges' of some faces are displaying where they are coincident with the visible face of other parts...
                              Much of your model is made as if it were constructed from a 'thin card' - with the the parts having no real thickness, and therefore edges and faces can be coincident.
                              This means that if say a deck has a bulkhead below it, then that bulkhead's top edge can show through when the edge/faces are different colors.
                              In the real world the deck [and all other parts] would all have real thicknesses - for even a single sheet of metal is several mms or even cms thick.
                              So giving your parts real thicknesses will avoid many of these issue, because then the correctly sized and positioned edges of objects will no longer coincident with the visible face of abutting objects...

                              TIG

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                              • S 離線
                                Supreme Line
                                最後由 編輯

                                @dave r said:

                                As I suspected, it is the back face color showing through at seams. You can change the back face color to white and they won't show ion the white areas but they'll probably show in the areas you've painted black.

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                                I changed the back face color to magenta which makes your "dots" really stand out and confirms the problem. Turn the edges back one and those dots generally won't show because the edges will hide them.

                                Its not working over here 😞 grrrrr 😢

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                                • Rich O BrienR 離線
                                  Rich O Brien Moderator
                                  最後由 編輯

                                  Computer Specs?

                                  My guess is you've a pretty inadequate card

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                                  • Dave RD 離線
                                    Dave R
                                    最後由 編輯

                                    @supreme line said:

                                    Its not working over here 😞 grrrrr 😢

                                    What's not working?

                                    As Rich suggests, you've probably got an inadequate card. If this stuff is important to you, try upgrading your hardware.

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                                    • S 離線
                                      Supreme Line
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                                      Processor is Intel(r) Core 3 Duo, with a memory of 3.00GB and its a 32-bit operating system.

                                      As I said iv built around 40+ models and this is the very first time iv seen this before, and they are well bigger in all ways with a lot more detail.

                                      The other ship (below) is bigger, no problem at all while building.


                                      adve.jpg

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                                      • Dave RD 離線
                                        Dave R
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                                        This is a graphics card issue not CPU.

                                        I'd bet a beer we could go through every model you've created and find the same issue. Just turn on the edges while you're working and they won't show. Besides, they don't hurt anything while you're drawing, anyway.

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                                        • S 離線
                                          Supreme Line
                                          最後由 編輯

                                          Graphics Card: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD

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                                          • S 離線
                                            Supreme Line
                                            最後由 編輯

                                            Here is the ship before these dots appeared.


                                            s1.jpg

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