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    • S Offline
      Supreme Line
      last edited by

      Hey All,

      Right I am building this ship okay, and these dots/spots keep showing up and its driving my crazy its on both sides. They show up when I for example create a square or something and at this rate by the time I finish the ship it be covered in dots grrrrrr....

      any help please ?


      proof of dots


      dots 2

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      • Rich O BrienR Offline
        Rich O Brien Moderator
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        • S Offline
          Supreme Line
          last edited by

          This is not the problem, the ship is a empty shell nothing inside I thought it was the floor inside but its not so I clearly lost on this. Out of all my ships this is the very first time iv had this bother grrrr 😞

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          • Rich O BrienR Offline
            Rich O Brien Moderator
            last edited by

            Floor touching the outside face?

            Turn on hidden geometry and post a pic

            And put a section there so we can see internals

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            • S Offline
              Supreme Line
              last edited by

              her ya go


              Here is is, clear as day.


              Her is the inside (no floor) and its even inside.


              the highlight : if I delete it and then draw a square to fill it in once I move away from ship they appear again, its a loosing battle


              hidden geometry on no different

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              • Dave RD Offline
                Dave R
                last edited by

                You didn't post an image with hidden geometry turned on. πŸ˜’ Post one with edges turned on, too.

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                • GaieusG Offline
                  Gaieus
                  last edited by

                  Even better; post the model itself...

                  Gai...

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                  • S Offline
                    Supreme Line
                    last edited by

                    Gaieus you mean a picture right ?


                    full model


                    supremic 2.jpg

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                    • BoxB Offline
                      Box
                      last edited by

                      No, he means the model or at least a section of it where the problem exists.
                      You can upload .skp files to your posts.

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                      • Dave RD Offline
                        Dave R
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                        I expect the dots you are seeing are cause by the back face color showing through at the seams but that's only a guess. You could try changing the back face color to white although it would probably show through somewhere else. You still haven't posted the requested screen grabs, though. πŸ˜’ The model (SKP) file would be best.

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                        • S Offline
                          Supreme Line
                          last edited by

                          I am not great designer btw

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                          • Dave RD Offline
                            Dave R
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                            As I suspected, it is the back face color showing through at seams. You can change the back face color to white and they won't show ion the white areas but they'll probably show in the areas you've painted black.

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                            I changed the back face color to magenta which makes your "dots" really stand out and confirms the problem. Turn the edges back one and those dots generally won't show because the edges will hide them.

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
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                              As Dave says...
                              What you are seeing is that the 'edges' of some faces are displaying where they are coincident with the visible face of other parts...
                              Much of your model is made as if it were constructed from a 'thin card' - with the the parts having no real thickness, and therefore edges and faces can be coincident.
                              This means that if say a deck has a bulkhead below it, then that bulkhead's top edge can show through when the edge/faces are different colors.
                              In the real world the deck [and all other parts] would all have real thicknesses - for even a single sheet of metal is several mms or even cms thick.
                              So giving your parts real thicknesses will avoid many of these issue, because then the correctly sized and positioned edges of objects will no longer coincident with the visible face of abutting objects...

                              TIG

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                              • S Offline
                                Supreme Line
                                last edited by

                                @dave r said:

                                As I suspected, it is the back face color showing through at seams. You can change the back face color to white and they won't show ion the white areas but they'll probably show in the areas you've painted black.

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                                I changed the back face color to magenta which makes your "dots" really stand out and confirms the problem. Turn the edges back one and those dots generally won't show because the edges will hide them.

                                Its not working over here 😞 grrrrr 😒

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                                • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                  Rich O Brien Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Computer Specs?

                                  My guess is you've a pretty inadequate card

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                                  • Dave RD Offline
                                    Dave R
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                                    @supreme line said:

                                    Its not working over here 😞 grrrrr 😒

                                    What's not working?

                                    As Rich suggests, you've probably got an inadequate card. If this stuff is important to you, try upgrading your hardware.

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                                      Supreme Line
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                                      Processor is Intel(r) Core 3 Duo, with a memory of 3.00GB and its a 32-bit operating system.

                                      As I said iv built around 40+ models and this is the very first time iv seen this before, and they are well bigger in all ways with a lot more detail.

                                      The other ship (below) is bigger, no problem at all while building.


                                      adve.jpg

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                                      • Dave RD Offline
                                        Dave R
                                        last edited by

                                        This is a graphics card issue not CPU.

                                        I'd bet a beer we could go through every model you've created and find the same issue. Just turn on the edges while you're working and they won't show. Besides, they don't hurt anything while you're drawing, anyway.

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                                        • S Offline
                                          Supreme Line
                                          last edited by

                                          Graphics Card: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD

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                                          • S Offline
                                            Supreme Line
                                            last edited by

                                            Here is the ship before these dots appeared.


                                            s1.jpg

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