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    • B Offline
      BobObba
      last edited by

      Hi guys, I have what will hopefully be a simple problem that is causing me a big headache.

      I need a pipe or follow-me style operation to create a cylindrical tube defined by some lines. Ive been trying to look for β€˜follow me’ rubies that let you split the line rather than use a linear path, but to no avail. I've tried searching here, but I'm rubbish and don't really know how to simply describe the search terms.

      The critical thing for me is that the pipes intersect properly at the corners. I’m not too fussed at the moment if the corner is smoothed or folded, but the option would be great.

      Any help from you stalwarts of the community would be very very appreciated!

      Cheers

      Bob


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      • Rich O BrienR Offline
        Rich O Brien Moderator
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        • B Offline
          BobObba
          last edited by

          @unknownuser said:

          Something like that ?

          [attachment=0:31ijmv7j]<!-- ia0 -->roundcube.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:31ijmv7j]

          That's beautiful and if there is a plug in that can do that I'm certain I could find a use for it in the future! But for now my aspirations are rather more modest, as can be seen on the post above (it needed to be approved so it took a while to appear) It's the clean intersection of three (or maybe more) lines at one point.

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
            last edited by

            Something like that ? (ah damned you post your precision image so a new solution must be found! πŸ˜„
            (I have used the Quick Lathe by Trogluddite for the arc circle)

            roundcube.jpg

            roundcube1.jpg

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            • Rich O BrienR Offline
              Rich O Brien Moderator
              last edited by

              Try welding 2 lines then running Lines2Tubes this will form a tube around a bend.

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
                last edited by

                So a new solution must be found πŸ˜„

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                • B Offline
                  BobObba
                  last edited by

                  Trying your suggestion now Rich (with weld.rb?) just takes ages for SK to re-open on our company network. Will report back.

                  I currently use one called 'pipe along path' which is also very good as a follow-me tool.

                  (and thanks again for the help guys!)

                  EDIT:

                  Weld.rb seems to be a bit touchy with acute angles (perhaps my modelling issue!) so isn't a great help in this instance.

                  However, I can still use 'pipe along path' in two operations to achieve the same effect. It's fine as a stop-gap though. Still, if anyone knows another tool that can solve it, my tree columns will forever be in your debt!

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                  • B Offline
                    BobObba
                    last edited by

                    Thanks so much for the swift reply, Rich!

                    I've just installed that plugin and although it's a very useful but not quite what I need.

                    I apologise if my explaination before was a bit vague (actually lazy because I should have drawn it!)

                    What I meant by not minding about the intersection was its style as demonstrated in the attached image - if anyone knows a plug-in that can do it, that would be exceptional!


                    pipe 2.jpg

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                    • Rich O BrienR Offline
                      Rich O Brien Moderator
                      last edited by

                      In Blender it is a one step operation but not in SketchUp I'm afraid.

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        Why not fill that : Internal and external ?
                        Draw the 3 families of arc circle between the 3 arc blues circles! πŸ˜‰
                        You will obtain a good aproximation πŸ˜„
                        The Sand box give a no symetric result
                        Use the Curvy loft by Fredo6 seems don't works : it's make some flat result
                        Maybe Soap skinBuble can also works πŸ˜‰


                        roundcube2.png

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                        • Rich O BrienR Offline
                          Rich O Brien Moderator
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                          [screenr:puavc98b]FZWH[/screenr:puavc98b]

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                          • Rich O BrienR Offline
                            Rich O Brien Moderator
                            last edited by

                            ...then you smash it 😎

                            pilou-smash.gif

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                            • BoxB Offline
                              Box
                              last edited by

                              One thing to note, if you create complex geometry, whether by plugin or manually, and it is repetitive you tend to over stretch the file size quickly.
                              Try looking at you construction from a real world view and see how you can break it down into reusable components. One straight pipe with an angle curved corner can be flipped around in various directions to form many jointed corners. This allows you to work with easily editable sections and keeps you file size down.

                              To look at it a simple way, using line to tube on 100 lines is easy but it uses resources, whereas those same 100 lines as component copies are tiny file size, easily modified automatically or easily made unique. It pays to plan ahead sometimes.

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                              • pilouP Offline
                                pilou
                                last edited by

                                Cool for the Blendy animation! πŸ‘ πŸ˜†

                                In fact you can make the same inside Sketchup!
                                Just use Artisan or Subdivide and smooth πŸ˜„
                                Then Zorro 2 for cut your object

                                • Close Holes
                                  and at the end
                                  SketchyPhysics! πŸ’š

                                http://www.polyloop.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=32496&d=1348004456

                                And in 2D physic simulation try Algodoo! (its free for pc & MAc , 5 $ for an ipad)
                                You input your objects from sketchup by an PNG image with a transparent background !

                                You can play with these ones! πŸ˜„

                                http://s6.postimg.org/pqg6vhw0h/for_algodoo.png

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                                • pilouP Offline
                                  pilou
                                  last edited by

                                  Soap Skin and Bubble gives a very cool result! πŸ˜„

                                  You have just to draw the 2 triangles External and internal as Shown in my post above!

                                  Not a big deal πŸ˜„
                                  In fact for each just one side of the triangle that you copy rotate by 90Β°! πŸ˜‰

                                  External : Division 30
                                  Internal division 20
                                  Pressure 150

                                  roundcube3.jpg

                                  soapp.jpg


                                  cubicsoap.skp

                                  Frenchy Pilou
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                                  My Little site :)

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                                  • Bob JamesB Offline
                                    Bob James
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                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    Algodoo! (its free for pc & MAc , 5 $ for an ipad)

                                    Algodoo for an ipad is also free now πŸ˜„

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                                    • pilouP Offline
                                      pilou
                                      last edited by

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      Algodoo for an ipad is also free now

                                      Have you a link ?
                                      Because I obtain that! 😲

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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                                      • pilouP Offline
                                        pilou
                                        last edited by

                                        More rustic than mine! πŸ˜„
                                        But maybe the target! β˜€

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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                                        • takesh hT Offline
                                          takesh h
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi Bob,

                                          I may be misunderstanding and it is far from a simple "one-click operation",
                                          but... is this what you want to do? ❓

                                          EDIT: "each tube is a group" should be an option of Lines2Tubes plugin. 😳

                                          EDIT2: You don't have to start with a wireframe... could (or should?) be a simple cube.

                                          smoothcorners.jpg

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                                          • B Offline
                                            BobObba
                                            last edited by

                                            I apologise for going AWOL, i posted this in work (while looking for the solution) and then went and took an extended weekend.

                                            Anyway, you guys are incredible - Pilou, your method is perfect for a gentle column angle and Takesh h, your method of using the intersect curve from Round Corners.rb will prove perfect for more acute angles and Box, your advice about trying to take a component and re-use is well heeded. Your collective enthusiasm to help us mere mortals is inspiring.

                                            I admit I was hoping for a quick fix plug-in (since I have about 25 unique geometry columns to model) but both your steps are very clear and reproducible so shouldn’t take too much time… as long as the scheme doesn’t keep changing like it did today πŸ˜•

                                            Oh, and Rich O Brien, the Blender demo makes me wish we used something more advanced than SK in my office.

                                            Cheers all!

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