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    • V Offline
      Vicspa
      last edited by

      This should help.

      http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=335&t=35730&start=15

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        cymro
        last edited by

        Thanks for the link,

        I have gone through the thread and watched the video. I still can't get my head round it, although the result I now get looks better it is not what I was hoping for.

        Need to read a few other Artisan threads I think

        thanks

        Stephen

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        • pilouP Offline
          pilou
          last edited by

          Have a regulate inflate volume from this very tortuous form with Artisan is not easy!

          Maybe with Soap skin buble or Ferrari that will be more easy πŸ˜„
          As you can inflate the volume following the pressure you want!

          Just draw your form on the plane! πŸ˜„
          And put the pressure! Popup the volume! πŸ˜„
          Division and Pressure are input in the little Dialog box of Su right bottom corner screen!

          Is that more clear ? πŸ’š Pressure can be positive or negative depending of the orientation of your faces! πŸ€“
          here Soap skin Buble a very cool plug! β˜€
          (of course the result C has the same size because it will be in the same place than the Start form! But you can copy move, resize the result before call the button Generate SoapBubble!!

          for a collective Pressure on some objects from copy move even resized!
          But not from different object Soap Skinned! πŸ€“

          dragon.jpg

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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          • mitcorbM Offline
            mitcorb
            last edited by

            I think one message in the video is to work with minimal edges and allow Artisan to do the subdivision and smoothing. Search a thread started by cotty called Artisan examples, I think.

            As Pilou showed, maybe Artisan is not the tool for this kind of work.

            I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              here the link for examples with Artisan by Cotty

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • ely862meE Offline
                ely862me
                last edited by

                Please attach the image ! See in the left side, down the Save draft button, Upload attachment !

                Elisei (sketchupper)


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                • K Offline
                  kaas
                  last edited by

                  If I may hijack this thread... I could need some advice on using Artisan too.

                  I'm trying to model Roundstack by Stackstoves. I'm having trouble creating the proxy for the red part. The extruded front shape keeps messing up the vertical cylinder (very clear in renders or during walk throughs in LightUp).

                  Also, I need to add lots of rounded edges already just to control the shape before pressing Subdivide & Smooth.

                  Any tips for changes to the proxy??

                  greetings, Max

                  edit: changed the image to higher resolution


                  wires_stack stove round wood.jpg

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                    kaas
                    last edited by

                    @ely862me said:

                    Please attach the image ! See in the left side, down the Save draft button, Upload attachment !

                    The image was there but I deleted it while I was editing my post and uploading a higher resolution file. Apparently you were reading my post at exactly the 20 seconds there was no image anymore..

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                      kaas
                      last edited by

                      Pilou, thanks for your reply.

                      I'm wondering if this particular shape can be made with a simple proxy or that I should already put in a more rounded shape and just use Artisan to soften the result. The intersection between the 2 shapes keeps messing up the end result. I haven't found the right combination of edges and creases yet.

                      I'm very curious though if a simple proxy is possible for this shape at all so I hope someone of the more experienced Artisan users can point me into the right direction...

                      It's very much fun though, a great plugin!


                      stackStove_proxies.jpg

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                      • K Offline
                        kaas
                        last edited by

                        Just finished the stove. I tried several strategies and had the best results with the lowest polycount by rounding the corners already before using Subdivide and Smooth.

                        Still I'm curious if an experienced Artisan can achieve a good result with a simple proxy instead.


                        making of Stack stove round wood.jpg

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                        • HieruH Offline
                          Hieru
                          last edited by

                          Kaas,

                          I think you would still get good results using your approach if you further reduced the number of circle and bevel segments.

                          Without using bevels and keeping the proxy as simple as possible, this is how I would tackle the shape:

                          Artisan.jpg

                          Subdivision is done with 2 iterations.

                          The trick here is to use just enough segments and make sure that the block doesn't intersect with the tube along segment edges.


                          Artisan.skp

                          www.davidhier.co.uk

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                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            Seems you must deal with that πŸ˜‰

                            http://moiscript.weebly.com/uploads/3/9/3/8/3938813/8983330_orig.jpg

                            http://moiscript.weebly.com/uploads/3/9/3/8/3938813/494823496.png

                            http://moiscript.weebly.com/uploads/3/9/3/8/3938813/1056565_orig.jpg

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                              cymro
                              last edited by

                              Hi,
                              Sorry for the delay in thanking the above for their help.
                              The original outline was too complex, I have redrawn it and with you're help I am getting the results I am looking for.

                              Many thanks

                              Stephen

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                                kaas
                                last edited by

                                @hieru said:

                                Kaas,

                                I think you would still get good results using your approach if you further reduced the number of circle and bevel segments.

                                The trick here is to use just enough segments and make sure that the block doesn't intersect with the tube along segment edges.

                                Hieru, Thanks for your reply and the trick you mention. I'm going to test it soon.

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