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    • Rich O BrienR Offline
      Rich O Brien Moderator
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      They are probably busy answering the 30million users on their forums to visit here...

      Google Product Forums

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      (productforums.google.com)

      ...or maybe not?

      Maybe their Sages are ran ragged offering great customer support....

      http://productforums.google.com/d/msg/sketchup/N5B0_3Xb77E/zHGwd7GB99MJ

      or maybe not?

      All this conjecture on what they are and aren't doing is pointless.

      We know what we are at here and for those bitchin' and moanin' about SU2013....let it all out all because there another 51 weeks of it.

      But for those tuned in and listening and watching what is happening around here. Our online store for Plugins got a lick of paint.....and......

      Later today devs will be uploading direct to the store themselves. How f@#king cool is that?

      Whether you're on v8 or v9 you'll be getting updated plugins as they happen.....

      Has that cheered anyone up?

      EDIT -

      I better add a bitch and moan otherwise Dan will kick my ass.

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      • Dan RathbunD Offline
        Dan Rathbun
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        @rich o brien said:

        I better add a bitch and moan otherwise Dan will kick my ass.

        ๐Ÿ‘ฟ โžก ๐Ÿ‘Š

        As close to an ass-kickin-emoticon as I can find. ๐Ÿ˜›

        I'm not here much anymore.

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        • Dan RathbunD Offline
          Dan Rathbun
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          Another one of my favorite bitchins...

          I am sick and tired of elitest apple snobs (and some SU Dev team members,) telling us to buy a Mac whenever we have issues with our PCs !

          IMHO, I see more plugin issues with Mac SketchUp than PC SketchUp.

          So all ya platform snobs can just shove that Mac of yours right up .... uh, some dark orifice. ๐Ÿ˜›

          I'm not here much anymore.

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          • jeff hammondJ Offline
            jeff hammond
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            @dan rathbun said:

            I am sick and tired of elitest apple snobs (and some SU Dev team members,) telling us to buy a Mac whenever we have issues with our PCs !

            IMHO, I see more plugin issues with Mac SketchUp than PC SketchUp.

            buy a mac.. then you can figure out why we tend to have more issues with our plugins.
            thanks in advance

            dotdotdot

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            • jason_marantoJ Offline
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              Wow Dan, I thought I was throwing out some bombs -- but you just set some demolition charges ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

              Best,
              Jason.

              I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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              • soloS Offline
                solo
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                @jason_maranto said:

                Wow Dan, I thought I was throwing out some bombs -- but you just set some demolition charges ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

                Best,
                Jason.

                Why burn a bridge if you can blow it to smithereens? ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                • jeff hammondJ Offline
                  jeff hammond
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                  @jason_maranto said:

                  Wow Dan, I thought I was throwing out some bombs -- but you just set some demolition charges ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

                  Best,
                  Jason.

                  nah.. it's cool.. it's always a bit of fun trolling people that can't afford a real computer

                  dotdotdot

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                  • jason_marantoJ Offline
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                    @unknownuser said:

                    nah.. it's cool.. it's always a bit of fun trolling people that can't afford a real computer

                    No lie, I just laughed out loud for at least 30 seconds... that may be the funniest thing I've seen in a long while. ๐Ÿ˜†

                    Best,
                    Jason.

                    I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                    • jeff hammondJ Offline
                      jeff hammond
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                      ๐Ÿ˜†
                      ๐Ÿ’š

                      dotdotdot

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                      • bmikeB Offline
                        bmike
                        last edited by

                        @unknownuser said:

                        @jason_maranto said:

                        Wow Dan, I thought I was throwing out some bombs -- but you just set some demolition charges ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

                        Best,
                        Jason.

                        nah.. it's cool.. it's always a bit of fun trolling people that can't afford a real computer

                        yeah, not to mention i have essentially 2 machines if i need, and can run both at the same time.

                        mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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                        • pbacotP Offline
                          pbacot
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                          er I think the Mac HAS been all but ignored by SU if you look at the UI. As I said before SU makes me want to get a PC.

                          MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                          • Alan FraserA Offline
                            Alan Fraser
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                            Yeah! The other advantage of macs is that they provide excellent training for becoming an upgrade whore...complete with a handy in-house istore where you can purchase all kinds of shiny new toys.
                            Mac fan-boys ought to feel right at home with the new SU. ๐Ÿ˜„

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                            • jeff hammondJ Offline
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                              @pbacot said:

                              er I think the Mac HAS been all but ignored by SU if you look at the UI. As I said before SU makes me want to get a PC.

                              grasshopper makes me want to get a PC.. it's not working in mac rhino yet.
                              for whatever reason, it's such a daunting task for me to get bootcamp + windows + rhino hooked up on my computers.. on a few occasions, i've considered hiring an IT guy to get everything up and running for me just so i can use grasshopper..

                              but for now, i'm just rolling with the typical adhd plan of "procrastinate long enough and you'll get what you want"
                              ๐Ÿ˜†

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                              • FrederikF Offline
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                                @pbacot said:

                                ...I think the Mac HAS been all but ignored by SU if you look at the UI...

                                I'm getting more and more confused, cause if you look at "darling's" profile, you'll notice that the OS is set to... drum roll ... MAC... ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                                Cheers
                                Kim Frederik

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                                • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                  jeff hammond
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                                  @frederik said:

                                  @pbacot said:

                                  ...I think the Mac HAS been all but ignored by SU if you look at the UI...

                                  I'm getting more and more confused, cause if you look at "darling's" profile, you'll notice that the OS is set to... drum roll ... MAC... ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                                  i don't think they have anyone onboard that actually uses the app in the way it's supposedly designed to be used.. because if they did, they'd definitely be ironing out all the pesky little UI pitfalls that become apparent when working in a production environment.

                                  (but hey, chris f. has joined the team and i know he used sketchup in a working environment.. hopefully he'll be able to have some say in this stuff)

                                  (and yes, this is a back-handed stab.. the suTeam probably does have a lot of people that know the app).. i don't really know so i'm just making stuff up now ๐Ÿ˜„

                                  dotdotdot

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                                  • bmikeB Offline
                                    bmike
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                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    @frederik said:

                                    @pbacot said:

                                    ...I think the Mac HAS been all but ignored by SU if you look at the UI...

                                    I'm getting more and more confused, cause if you look at "darling's" profile, you'll notice that the OS is set to... drum roll ... MAC... ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                                    i don't think they have anyone onboard that actually uses the app in the way it's supposedly designed to be used.. because if they did, they'd definitely be ironing out all the pesky little UI pitfalls that become apparent when working in a production environment.

                                    (but hey, chris f. has joined the team and i know he used sketchup in a working environment.. hopefully he'll be able to have some say in this stuff)

                                    **(and yes, this is a back-handed stab.. the suTeam probably does have a lot of people that know the app).. i don't really know so i'm just making stuff up now ๐Ÿ˜„
                                    **

                                    yeah, hopefully trimble will keep the mac version going, and maybe even make it look and work like most other OSX apps.

                                    starting to peak at rhino and formz (used it along time ago in grad school... on a powerbook 1400cs! - man has it changed!)

                                    i do need layout solution though, might have to download some trials and play around.

                                    mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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                                    • A Offline
                                      Aerilius
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                                      Ohh... not again platform wars.
                                      Standards, virtualization and app-streaming make platforms irrelevant anyways. Make one application that works really well, not many that only complement each other's issues.

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                                      • arail1A Offline
                                        arail1
                                        last edited by

                                        @bmike said:

                                        starting to peak at rhino and formz (used it along time ago in grad school... on a powerbook 1400cs! - man has it changed!)

                                        i do need layout solution though, might have to download some trials and play around.

                                        Just starting w/ Rhino. What can SU Layout do that Rhino Layout can't? (I'm a real newbie at Rhino - haven't even set up a title block yet so my question is sincere.)

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                                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                          jeff hammond
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                                          @arail1 said:

                                          Just starting w/ Rhino. What can SU Layout do that Rhino Layout can't? (I'm a real newbie at Rhino - haven't even set up a title block yet so my question is sincere.)

                                          fwiw, i'm the wrong person to ask.. i build all the stuff i design so i don't generally have a need for 2D drawings with details etc.. i'm from the mindset of 'draw it in 3D to begin with.. how much more detailed can you get ? ๐Ÿ˜‰ "

                                          i used to use layout to try to communicate with engineers but it was always so boring to me instead of the 'fun' i get from 3D modeling.. and i like trying to keep things fun and interesting-- otherwise, i start to feel like i'm working ๐Ÿ˜†

                                          just this morning, i sent some .3dm files to a new (to me) engineering firm and told them i'm only going to be distributing 3D files and if they need to translate to 2D, go ahead and do it.. ๐Ÿ˜‰
                                          (but they seem to be pretty cool with the idea of "look.. let me do my thing and you do your thing and we'll get along great")

                                          anyway- i guess that's going off topic but i don't have much of a clue regarding layout vs rhino.. i do know that in rhino, it would be as if layout&sketchup were one app instead of two.. that alone gets a ๐Ÿ‘ from me.

                                          dotdotdot

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                                          • jason_marantoJ Offline
                                            jason_maranto
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                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            i do know that in rhino, it would be as if layout&sketchup were one app instead of two.. that alone gets a ๐Ÿ‘ from me.

                                            This is pretty much true for form.z as well -- which I also like.

                                            One thing I would remind anybody who is looking into form.z is that the Layout features are still a WIP -- a good example of this is the fact that you don't have the ability to use regular colors/materials right now (only color via hatches/fills and lines). Which could work fine for construction drawings, but will likely not be the best for snazzy presentations.

                                            Here's a direct link to the form.z Layout feature documentation: http://www.formz.com/manuals/formz7/!SSL!/WebHelp/03021_Layout.html

                                            My advice would be to download the demo, use it for a while, and then drop by their forum to let them know what features you want added... you'll be surprised by how easy they are to work with.

                                            That said, Layout (for presentations) remains the one redeeming quality of updating SketchUp 9 Pro at this point.

                                            Best,
                                            Jason.

                                            I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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