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  • J Offline
    jason_maranto
    last edited by 28 May 2013, 11:26

    @mike amos said:

    The only time I had any communication with John he came across as a thoroughly decent bloke who was patiently trying to tell me how and why I was wrong.

    I agree with your entire post -- but this line is particular is so typical of "darling", I couldn't help but smile at the absurdity of it all.

    If he's got time and energy to explain why we are all "wrong", then you would assume his software is already a sterling example of performance and stability... right???

    Best,
    Jason.

    I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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      jason_maranto
      last edited by 28 May 2013, 11:43

      @frederik said:

      2.) Trimble have decided only to focus on their own community and abandon all third party SketchUp communities...
      (but it's going to be tough to ignore a community like SCF ๐Ÿ‘ฟ ...)

      I would say that this would be the primary culprit. They cannot control or spin very successfully here because they are on equal footing with the users... not a position that works to their advantage.

      But even so, I think talk from their side is pointless anyway -- they need to show progress, not talk about it.

      They've got enough bug reports and wish lists backlogged to keep them busy for the next several years -- so there is no need for us to go through another pointless "voting" debacle either. Which was just a thinly veiled attempt at placating the user base after the v8 release was such a dud... I never imagined v9 would be even worse, I sincerely thought that was impossible.

      I've got the new tagline:
      SketchUp. Setting new standards for mediocrity in update releases with each version!

      Best,
      Jason.

      I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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        Rich O Brien Moderator
        last edited by 28 May 2013, 11:59

        They are probably busy answering the 30million users on their forums to visit here...

        Google Product Forums

        favicon

        (productforums.google.com)

        ...or maybe not?

        Maybe their Sages are ran ragged offering great customer support....

        http://productforums.google.com/d/msg/sketchup/N5B0_3Xb77E/zHGwd7GB99MJ

        or maybe not?

        All this conjecture on what they are and aren't doing is pointless.

        We know what we are at here and for those bitchin' and moanin' about SU2013....let it all out all because there another 51 weeks of it.

        But for those tuned in and listening and watching what is happening around here. Our online store for Plugins got a lick of paint.....and......

        Later today devs will be uploading direct to the store themselves. How f@#king cool is that?

        Whether you're on v8 or v9 you'll be getting updated plugins as they happen.....

        Has that cheered anyone up?

        EDIT -

        I better add a bitch and moan otherwise Dan will kick my ass.

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          Dan Rathbun
          last edited by 28 May 2013, 13:17

          @rich o brien said:

          I better add a bitch and moan otherwise Dan will kick my ass.

          ๐Ÿ‘ฟ โžก ๐Ÿ‘Š

          As close to an ass-kickin-emoticon as I can find. ๐Ÿ˜›

          I'm not here much anymore.

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            Dan Rathbun
            last edited by 28 May 2013, 13:46

            Another one of my favorite bitchins...

            I am sick and tired of elitest apple snobs (and some SU Dev team members,) telling us to buy a Mac whenever we have issues with our PCs !

            IMHO, I see more plugin issues with Mac SketchUp than PC SketchUp.

            So all ya platform snobs can just shove that Mac of yours right up .... uh, some dark orifice. ๐Ÿ˜›

            I'm not here much anymore.

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              jeff hammond
              last edited by 28 May 2013, 13:55

              @dan rathbun said:

              I am sick and tired of elitest apple snobs (and some SU Dev team members,) telling us to buy a Mac whenever we have issues with our PCs !

              IMHO, I see more plugin issues with Mac SketchUp than PC SketchUp.

              buy a mac.. then you can figure out why we tend to have more issues with our plugins.
              thanks in advance

              dotdotdot

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                jason_maranto
                last edited by 28 May 2013, 14:13

                Wow Dan, I thought I was throwing out some bombs -- but you just set some demolition charges ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

                Best,
                Jason.

                I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                  solo
                  last edited by 28 May 2013, 14:16

                  @jason_maranto said:

                  Wow Dan, I thought I was throwing out some bombs -- but you just set some demolition charges ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

                  Best,
                  Jason.

                  Why burn a bridge if you can blow it to smithereens? ๐Ÿ˜‰

                  http://www.solos-art.com

                  If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                    jeff hammond
                    last edited by 28 May 2013, 14:21

                    @jason_maranto said:

                    Wow Dan, I thought I was throwing out some bombs -- but you just set some demolition charges ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

                    Best,
                    Jason.

                    nah.. it's cool.. it's always a bit of fun trolling people that can't afford a real computer

                    dotdotdot

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                      jason_maranto
                      last edited by 28 May 2013, 14:24

                      @unknownuser said:

                      nah.. it's cool.. it's always a bit of fun trolling people that can't afford a real computer

                      No lie, I just laughed out loud for at least 30 seconds... that may be the funniest thing I've seen in a long while. ๐Ÿ˜†

                      Best,
                      Jason.

                      I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                        jeff hammond
                        last edited by 28 May 2013, 14:30

                        ๐Ÿ˜†
                        ๐Ÿ’š

                        dotdotdot

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                          bmike
                          last edited by 28 May 2013, 14:49

                          @unknownuser said:

                          @jason_maranto said:

                          Wow Dan, I thought I was throwing out some bombs -- but you just set some demolition charges ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

                          Best,
                          Jason.

                          nah.. it's cool.. it's always a bit of fun trolling people that can't afford a real computer

                          yeah, not to mention i have essentially 2 machines if i need, and can run both at the same time.

                          mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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                            pbacot
                            last edited by 28 May 2013, 15:04

                            er I think the Mac HAS been all but ignored by SU if you look at the UI. As I said before SU makes me want to get a PC.

                            MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                              Alan Fraser
                              last edited by 28 May 2013, 15:13

                              Yeah! The other advantage of macs is that they provide excellent training for becoming an upgrade whore...complete with a handy in-house istore where you can purchase all kinds of shiny new toys.
                              Mac fan-boys ought to feel right at home with the new SU. ๐Ÿ˜„

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                                jeff hammond
                                last edited by 28 May 2013, 15:18

                                @pbacot said:

                                er I think the Mac HAS been all but ignored by SU if you look at the UI. As I said before SU makes me want to get a PC.

                                grasshopper makes me want to get a PC.. it's not working in mac rhino yet.
                                for whatever reason, it's such a daunting task for me to get bootcamp + windows + rhino hooked up on my computers.. on a few occasions, i've considered hiring an IT guy to get everything up and running for me just so i can use grasshopper..

                                but for now, i'm just rolling with the typical adhd plan of "procrastinate long enough and you'll get what you want"
                                ๐Ÿ˜†

                                dotdotdot

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                                  Frederik
                                  last edited by 28 May 2013, 15:24

                                  @pbacot said:

                                  ...I think the Mac HAS been all but ignored by SU if you look at the UI...

                                  I'm getting more and more confused, cause if you look at "darling's" profile, you'll notice that the OS is set to... drum roll ... MAC... ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                                  Cheers
                                  Kim Frederik

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                                    jeff hammond
                                    last edited by 28 May 2013, 15:32

                                    @frederik said:

                                    @pbacot said:

                                    ...I think the Mac HAS been all but ignored by SU if you look at the UI...

                                    I'm getting more and more confused, cause if you look at "darling's" profile, you'll notice that the OS is set to... drum roll ... MAC... ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                                    i don't think they have anyone onboard that actually uses the app in the way it's supposedly designed to be used.. because if they did, they'd definitely be ironing out all the pesky little UI pitfalls that become apparent when working in a production environment.

                                    (but hey, chris f. has joined the team and i know he used sketchup in a working environment.. hopefully he'll be able to have some say in this stuff)

                                    (and yes, this is a back-handed stab.. the suTeam probably does have a lot of people that know the app).. i don't really know so i'm just making stuff up now ๐Ÿ˜„

                                    dotdotdot

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                                      bmike
                                      last edited by 28 May 2013, 15:55

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      @frederik said:

                                      @pbacot said:

                                      ...I think the Mac HAS been all but ignored by SU if you look at the UI...

                                      I'm getting more and more confused, cause if you look at "darling's" profile, you'll notice that the OS is set to... drum roll ... MAC... ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                                      i don't think they have anyone onboard that actually uses the app in the way it's supposedly designed to be used.. because if they did, they'd definitely be ironing out all the pesky little UI pitfalls that become apparent when working in a production environment.

                                      (but hey, chris f. has joined the team and i know he used sketchup in a working environment.. hopefully he'll be able to have some say in this stuff)

                                      **(and yes, this is a back-handed stab.. the suTeam probably does have a lot of people that know the app).. i don't really know so i'm just making stuff up now ๐Ÿ˜„
                                      **

                                      yeah, hopefully trimble will keep the mac version going, and maybe even make it look and work like most other OSX apps.

                                      starting to peak at rhino and formz (used it along time ago in grad school... on a powerbook 1400cs! - man has it changed!)

                                      i do need layout solution though, might have to download some trials and play around.

                                      mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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                                        Aerilius
                                        last edited by 28 May 2013, 15:57

                                        Ohh... not again platform wars.
                                        Standards, virtualization and app-streaming make platforms irrelevant anyways. Make one application that works really well, not many that only complement each other's issues.

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                                          arail1
                                          last edited by 28 May 2013, 16:02

                                          @bmike said:

                                          starting to peak at rhino and formz (used it along time ago in grad school... on a powerbook 1400cs! - man has it changed!)

                                          i do need layout solution though, might have to download some trials and play around.

                                          Just starting w/ Rhino. What can SU Layout do that Rhino Layout can't? (I'm a real newbie at Rhino - haven't even set up a title block yet so my question is sincere.)

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