[Plugin] Face2Frame - Updated 27-Mar-2014

gullfo

this is a very cool script! attached are a couple of examples of it in use. couple of things - the header spacing looks like there is overlap. also, after using the tool it's somewhat arbitrary if the dialog comes back or not in example #1 i'd also tried to use it on a floor and on a ceiling. it's mostly there. in example #2 i tried to use it for a "soffit" and the vertical bits work as expected but the horizontal ones (like #1) are not computing right. this is definitely a great bit of work however it ends!

face 2 frame example 1.skp

face 2 frame example 2.skp

sdmitch

Given the fact that the plugin was designed for vertical walls, I'm not surprised that it had a problem with floors and ceilings.

The apparent overlap of the headers is the 3/4" plywood spacer between the headers.

Krisidious

@unknownuser said:

The apparent overlap of the headers is the 3/4" plywood spacer between the headers.

Yes that was my addition... Here in America on the jobs that I've worked we use Plywood in our headers.

mics_54

I haven't laminated headers in a decades...energy efficiency dictates 4x10 or 4x12 headers with 2 inches of foam insulation or spray foam on fully sheathed structures.

Krisidious

@mics_54 said:

I haven't laminated headers in a decades...energy efficiency dictates 4x10 or 4x12 headers with 2 inches of foam insulation or spray foam on fully sheathed structures.

Rich Boy...

Krisidious

I must admit I have not framed a house in probably 20 years and I don't provide framing details as framers from different areas do things differently and I assume know their trade better than I. So I would defer to those who know better.

mics_54

You're warm weather too...I do arctic construction.

gullfo

i wasn't sure if that was a laminate or not but it's ok. in general, i see a lot of newer construction with the laminated i-beam for the headers (similar to floors and rafters) and a foam fill. i think the headers work as-is and folks can draw any details necessary to describe their preferred approach it would be really cool if you could "x" the ends of the lumber so a 2D / wireframe view can show it like a construction plan would...

Krisidious

@gullfo said:

i wasn't sure if that was a laminate or not but it's ok. in general, i see a lot of newer construction with the laminated i-beam for the headers (similar to floors and rafters) and a foam fill. i think the headers work as-is and folks can draw any details necessary to describe their preferred approach it would be really cool if you could "x" the ends of the lumber so a 2D / wireframe view can show it like a construction plan would...

I considered that X as well, but not only at the ends but two faces all the way through studs, so that any stud in any location would show in sections as such. It would jump the polys up quite a bit but I don't think that would be a very big issue.

sdmitch

Just posted an update to Face2Frame. Now does floors, faces on the XY plane, and adds "X"s to ends of studs, headers and/or joist.

LAUFERON

I'm french and i'd like the same famous plugin in metric units !

A dream for woodworkers....

sdmitch

@unknownuser said:

I'm french and i'd like the same famous plugin in metric units !

A dream for woodworkers....

Sorry, I don't do metric.

TIG

You can 'metricate' it relatively easily...

@wall_type = "Ext" #unless @wall_type
@stud_size = "2X4" #unless @stud_size; 
@stud_space=16.inch #unless @stud_space
@header_size = "2X8" #unless @header_size
@corner_type = "A"
@thickness=0.0

could become

@wall_type = "Ext" #unless @wall_type
@stud_size = "50mmX100mm" #unless @stud_size; 
@stud_space=400.mm #unless @stud_space
@header_size = "50mmX200mm" #unless @header_size
@corner_type = "A"
@thickness=0.mm

Then in the html code... make similar edits so
<option value='2X2'>2x2</option>
...
<option value='16\"' selected>16\"</option>
becomes
<option value='50mmX50mm'>50mmx50mm</option>
...
<option value='400mm' selected>400mm</option>
and so on...
Now the cases for the stud sizes...
case @stud_size when "2X2" : dx = 1.500.inch; dy = 1.500.inch;
...
becomes
case @stud_size when "50mmX50mm" ; dx = 38.mm; dy = 38.mm;
OR whatever...
Fix all 8 or so of those sizes...
unless @wall_type=="Int" || (@stud_size!="2X4" && @stud_size!="2X6") case @stud_size when "2X4" case @corner_type when "A" ; studs=self.A_2X4(xa,ya,p,v,dx,dy)
...
Needs to be looked at...
unless @wall_type=="Int" || (@stud_size!="50mmX100mm" && @stud_size!="50mmX150mm") case @stud_size when "50mmX100mm" case @corner_type when "A" ; studs=self.A_50mmX100mm(xa,ya,p,v,dx,dy)
...
Then rename the matching
def A_2X4(vx,vy,p,v,dx,dy)
as
def A_50mmX100mm(vx,vy,p,v,dx,dy)
etc
The parts like 1/2" plywood spacer need 0.5 replacing with 12.mm or whatever is the equivalent ?
Parts of the code like dx+0.01 which add a 1/100" spacing could be adjusted to 0.25.mm or some other small metric equivalent ?
As can [ruby:13xikt90]dx2-0.02[/ruby:13xikt90] to be [ruby:13xikt90]dx2-0.5.mm[/ruby:13xikt90]
It just a matter of steps through every line and deciding what is needed...

Krisidious

Counting in multiples and intervals of 10 is sorcery... Witch craft I say! Someone get a rope and a rock.

virtualelvis

What am I doing wrong? I cannot figure out how to find this
plugin to use it..
I put it in my plugins folder.. but I can't figure out how to use it...
I looked under draw and plugins...
thanks for helping a noob.. d

Krisidious

Go to Plugins>SDM Tools>Face Tool>Face2Frame

sdmitch

Updated to be SU2014 compatible.

TIG

I've added it to the PluginStore.
http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=Face_to_Frame

Krisidious

Not using 2014 yet, but thanks for the work guys...

utiler

Hi Sam, I note above you said you haven't considered converting this plugin for metric use and TIG has outlined how to 'metricate' it. I'm a little unsure how this is done; Do I try and open the script and edit it? A little risky given I nothing about coding....

Cheers.