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      archturn
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      @gilles said:

      Here is your model with some corrections and the use of components,note it is 650Kb instead of 1950.

      Looks better than mine. So you redid the spiral?

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      • Dave RD 離線
        Dave R
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        @unknownuser said:

        @unknownuser said:

        found a situation where a group made more sense than a component.

        You have some plugins who works only with groups! 😉

        You're right. And when I use them I wind up converting the groups to components. I'd be happier if a component was just created by the plugin.

        I haven't found a need to use any plugins that only work on groups.

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          archturn
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          @dave r said:

          Gilles version of your model illustrates very clearly the reduction in file size that I mentioned earlier. 😉

          And even 100 of them is only 820 Kb. That's a couple of hours of production in your shop, right?

          Wish I could make them that fast. I missing something - would like to know your work flow on the spiral

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          • Dave RD 離線
            Dave R
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            I'd be happy to show you. I can't do it at the moment, though. Maybe another live demo with you or I'll make a video.

            Etaoin Shrdlu

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            • pilouP 離線
              pilou
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              @unknownuser said:

              found a situation where a group made more sense than a component.

              You have some plugins who works only with groups! 😉

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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                archturn
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                @dave r said:

                I'd be happy to show you. I can't do it at the moment, though. Maybe another live demo with you or I'll make a video.

                Dave
                That'd be great!!

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                • pilouP 離線
                  pilou
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                  and here for example after explode the original component for paint each faces
                  I don't need to make a component again, but just a group! 😉

                  groups.jpg

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                  • Dave RD 離線
                    Dave R
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                    @archturn said:

                    @dave r said:

                    I'd be happy to show you. I can't do it at the moment, though. Maybe another live demo with you or I'll make a video.

                    Dave
                    That'd be great!!

                    Maybe a live demo this weekend?

                    Etaoin Shrdlu

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                      archturn
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                      @dave r said:

                      @archturn said:

                      @dave r said:

                      I'd be happy to show you. I can't do it at the moment, though. Maybe another live demo with you or I'll make a video.

                      Dave
                      That'd be great!!

                      Maybe a live demo this weekend?

                      Sounds good

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                      • daleD 離線
                        dale
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                        I just want to thank you all for this thread. It has been a great learning experience. 👍

                        Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                        • gillesG 離線
                          gilles
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                          @archturn said:

                          @gilles said:

                          Here is your model with some corrections and the use of components,note it is 650Kb instead of 1950.

                          Looks better than mine. So you redid the spiral?

                          No I did not, its your model where I cut part of geometries to make components 😄

                          " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                          • pbacotP 離線
                            pbacot
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                            This thread is hot! Another point I would make is with screw.rb one can then make a component of spiral section that would stack directly beneath the other (without turning) and so you could increase, vary the height (within a module) easily.

                            I assume that can be done with Gilles' version.

                            MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                            • gillesG 離線
                              gilles
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                              Yes we can!

                              huhu couldn't resist.

                              " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                archturn
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                                @pbacot said:

                                This thread is hot! Another point I would make is with screw.rb one can then make a component of spiral section that would stack directly beneath the other (without turning) and so you could increase, vary the height (within a module) easily.

                                I assume that can be done with Gilles' version.

                                If I understand you right this is one method I used - I made a 2 1/2" profile (the profile of my barley twist router cutter) then used the screw plugin to make a 5" high one revolution spiral. I grouped it, then copied and stacked it on top the other spiral. I then selected those to array the rest of the way.

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                                • Dave RD 離線
                                  Dave R
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                                  That's pretty much it but use a component instead of a group.

                                  Etaoin Shrdlu

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                                    archturn
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                                    @dave r said:

                                    That's pretty much it but use a component instead of a group.
                                    Still not sure why there is such a difference in file size

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                                    • pilouP 離線
                                      pilou
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                                      I believe it's quasi the same size maybe a little less for the group because there is less informations inside no Glue etc..., but same info as pure geometry.

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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                                      • gillesG 離線
                                        gilles
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                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        illes wrote:
                                        Here is your model with some corrections and the use of components,note it is 650Kb instead of 1950.

                                        Isn't it a big difference?
                                        Also modifying all instances at once.
                                        Create libraries for further use in other models.

                                        " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                          archturn
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                                          Re: file size of my barley twist stair newel
                                          I'm still perplexed by the size of my file. I started over with a new SU file and made my newel without the barley twist. After imported my profile from CAD, did a sweep, created a component of the newel and my file size is 3 MB. What gives?
                                          BTW I have purged layers from the CAD file import

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                                          • Dave RD 離線
                                            Dave R
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                                            How many segments did your imported profile turn out to have? The profile I created last night with the Bezier tool had 22 (including the two little short segments I added at the ends. And the total number of entities after one turn of the screw was 2686.

                                            Etaoin Shrdlu

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