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    archturn
    last edited by 1 Feb 2013, 16:07

    @gilles said:

    Here is your model with some corrections and the use of components,note it is 650Kb instead of 1950.

    Looks better than mine. So you redid the spiral?

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      Dave R
      last edited by 1 Feb 2013, 16:21

      @unknownuser said:

      @unknownuser said:

      found a situation where a group made more sense than a component.

      You have some plugins who works only with groups! πŸ˜‰

      You're right. And when I use them I wind up converting the groups to components. I'd be happier if a component was just created by the plugin.

      I haven't found a need to use any plugins that only work on groups.

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        archturn
        last edited by 1 Feb 2013, 16:22

        @dave r said:

        Gilles version of your model illustrates very clearly the reduction in file size that I mentioned earlier. πŸ˜‰

        And even 100 of them is only 820 Kb. That's a couple of hours of production in your shop, right?

        Wish I could make them that fast. I missing something - would like to know your work flow on the spiral

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          Dave R
          last edited by 1 Feb 2013, 16:24

          I'd be happy to show you. I can't do it at the moment, though. Maybe another live demo with you or I'll make a video.

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            pilou
            last edited by 1 Feb 2013, 16:28

            @unknownuser said:

            found a situation where a group made more sense than a component.

            You have some plugins who works only with groups! πŸ˜‰

            Frenchy Pilou
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              archturn
              last edited by 1 Feb 2013, 16:29

              @dave r said:

              I'd be happy to show you. I can't do it at the moment, though. Maybe another live demo with you or I'll make a video.

              Dave
              That'd be great!!

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                pilou
                last edited by 1 Feb 2013, 16:29

                and here for example after explode the original component for paint each faces
                I don't need to make a component again, but just a group! πŸ˜‰

                groups.jpg

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
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                  Dave R
                  last edited by 1 Feb 2013, 16:32

                  @archturn said:

                  @dave r said:

                  I'd be happy to show you. I can't do it at the moment, though. Maybe another live demo with you or I'll make a video.

                  Dave
                  That'd be great!!

                  Maybe a live demo this weekend?

                  Etaoin Shrdlu

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                    archturn
                    last edited by 1 Feb 2013, 16:37

                    @dave r said:

                    @archturn said:

                    @dave r said:

                    I'd be happy to show you. I can't do it at the moment, though. Maybe another live demo with you or I'll make a video.

                    Dave
                    That'd be great!!

                    Maybe a live demo this weekend?

                    Sounds good

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                      dale
                      last edited by 1 Feb 2013, 16:45

                      I just want to thank you all for this thread. It has been a great learning experience. πŸ‘

                      Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                        gilles
                        last edited by 1 Feb 2013, 16:49

                        @archturn said:

                        @gilles said:

                        Here is your model with some corrections and the use of components,note it is 650Kb instead of 1950.

                        Looks better than mine. So you redid the spiral?

                        No I did not, its your model where I cut part of geometries to make components πŸ˜„

                        " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                          pbacot
                          last edited by 1 Feb 2013, 17:16

                          This thread is hot! Another point I would make is with screw.rb one can then make a component of spiral section that would stack directly beneath the other (without turning) and so you could increase, vary the height (within a module) easily.

                          I assume that can be done with Gilles' version.

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                            gilles
                            last edited by 1 Feb 2013, 18:27

                            Yes we can!

                            huhu couldn't resist.

                            " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                              archturn
                              last edited by 1 Feb 2013, 21:08

                              @pbacot said:

                              This thread is hot! Another point I would make is with screw.rb one can then make a component of spiral section that would stack directly beneath the other (without turning) and so you could increase, vary the height (within a module) easily.

                              I assume that can be done with Gilles' version.

                              If I understand you right this is one method I used - I made a 2 1/2" profile (the profile of my barley twist router cutter) then used the screw plugin to make a 5" high one revolution spiral. I grouped it, then copied and stacked it on top the other spiral. I then selected those to array the rest of the way.

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                                Dave R
                                last edited by 1 Feb 2013, 21:51

                                That's pretty much it but use a component instead of a group.

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                                  archturn
                                  last edited by 1 Feb 2013, 21:56

                                  @dave r said:

                                  That's pretty much it but use a component instead of a group.
                                  Still not sure why there is such a difference in file size

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                                    pilou
                                    last edited by 1 Feb 2013, 22:20

                                    I believe it's quasi the same size maybe a little less for the group because there is less informations inside no Glue etc..., but same info as pure geometry.

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                      gilles
                                      last edited by 2 Feb 2013, 09:59

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      illes wrote:
                                      Here is your model with some corrections and the use of components,note it is 650Kb instead of 1950.

                                      Isn't it a big difference?
                                      Also modifying all instances at once.
                                      Create libraries for further use in other models.

                                      " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                        archturn
                                        last edited by 2 Feb 2013, 21:13

                                        Re: file size of my barley twist stair newel
                                        I'm still perplexed by the size of my file. I started over with a new SU file and made my newel without the barley twist. After imported my profile from CAD, did a sweep, created a component of the newel and my file size is 3 MB. What gives?
                                        BTW I have purged layers from the CAD file import

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                                          Dave R
                                          last edited by 2 Feb 2013, 21:47

                                          How many segments did your imported profile turn out to have? The profile I created last night with the Bezier tool had 22 (including the two little short segments I added at the ends. And the total number of entities after one turn of the screw was 2686.

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