PDF Print/Export is crazy slow!
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I found little (none for raster) difference in quality once you choose Low for Pdf export (whether you choose Document setup high resolution output or low). Mac print to PDF is the same quality, time, and file size (in my tests) as export PDF high quality.
Too many settings in different places, and why not have pages all render the same? etc etc. The reason is that LayOut is so slow at rendering. My CAD is always the same, even with colors (images do affect it) all crisp, fast, output to reasonably sized pdfs ( no dumbed down resolution or quality offered),
I don't know what the deal is with pdf file sizes. Different programs produce different sizes and doesn't seem to be related to quality, vector or not. Some other pdfs are so slow to view as to be useless. I am talking in general here. There must be some ways to optimize pdf output and I hope LO gets some better results in the future.
So I guess I have the "problem" that HIGH / HIGH raster is as low I would want to go in quality--might be OK for some printed output. So the times and pdf sizes go up from there. Certainly in some cases the jaggies get lost in printing and your nose has to be "on the page" to see it all but it does affect the overall quality and is terrible for pdf viewing on the computer.
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If only there was a setting that would output Hybrid to print, and simple raster for screen. That would help me.
It's worth noting that I got a rather big model. A very large site plan with stepped terrain. I've used Layout before and not had too much problem with performance. But when I compare to how SketchUp handle the model it appear that Layout is lagging far behind.
Just wanted to check if I'd missed some "tricks".
Observation I made, I opened a High resolution PDF from Layout in Adobe Acrobat, right clicked one of the image tiles on one of the pages and it offers me to save it to disk. However, the recommended fileformat was BMP! ... is that an indication that the PDF from Layout saved the images as BMP? Or is it just a weird default in Adobe Acrobat?
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Perhaps a shared benchmark file is in order?
(For .pdf export time/file size...I know...I know...but perhaps it is simply not hardware related).& fwiw, the 2 projects I mention are ~ .25 acre and probably ~6+ acre respectively.
Unfortunately I cannot share the actual project files...maybe a vanilla/pseudo variant?Thoughts?
Charlie
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Well, if you want to see crazy PDF file size, I have one set of CDs for a 4000 sf house that is 415 mb. I exported on high quality. What I found is that exported to low quality printed on 24x36 inch paper reads really well, so that is why I export on low quality now. In fact the difference between high and low when printed is minimal at best.
If the file size is a problem, there are PDF exporters that work well. For me, the ease of export out of layout is great. If you are vector rendering an entire model, that is where you will pay in time. Mine are all raster with isolated line work vector rendered, so I never see exports take longer than 30 seconds for the larger files.
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@unknownuser said:
Perhaps a shared benchmark file is in order?
(For .pdf export time/file size...I know...I know...but perhaps it is simply not hardware related).& fwiw, the 2 projects I mention are ~ .25 acre and probably ~6+ acre respectively.
Unfortunately I cannot share the actual project files...maybe a vanilla/pseudo variant?Thoughts?
Charlie
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Hi,
Not a technical answer but I found that certain styles I was using in Sketchup quadrupled the PDF file size in Layout.
Penguin2
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I use a pretty standard template based on the Architectural style.
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right click on layout process in windows task manager, set priority to high. It'll speed up a little bit
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Have you tried optimising the PDF's after export - this I've found can reduce the file size of lots of CAD generated files.
Advanced > PDF optimiser!
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@richard said:
Have you tried optimising the PDF's after export
Yea, very mixed results. The ones that actually bring the size down makes everything look really bad.
While in comparison, if I set up the same pages in InDesign I get much smaller files, no problem. -
Look at the meta of an InDesign export and a LayOut.
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I've learned to use my PDF995 to print PDFs out of Layout. It's much faster and the file sizes are 1000 times smaller with all the detail. It's a pdf printer port emulator.
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@krisidious said:
I've learned to use my PDF995 to print PDFs out of Layout. It's much faster and the file sizes are 1000 times smaller with all the detail. It's a pdf printer port emulator.
Clever
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