Will pay for rendering help
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Hey Stephen
Yeah, I think I've age two years for each month I've tried to figure out Kerkythea. I keep hoping that suddenly there will be an "AHA!" moment and it will all fall into place, but then I also keep hoping I'll win the lottery (which is probably more likely).
You might want to check out "Sketchup 7.1 for Architectural Visualization" by Robin de Jongh. He used Kerkythea exclusively throughout the book. There are plenty of photos and illustrations, but unfortunately they are all in black and white. Very frustrating when he refers to a color in a photo and it's B&W. I get the feeling it was originally planned to use color photos but they changed their minds.
Hopefully somebody will take me up on my offer, but until and unless that happens we'll just have to keep banging away at it.
Best of luck to you
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Is there a deadline on this request? I may be interested in trying to help.
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Hi Steve,
There is a free version of renditioner which is the simplest render program I know of (drag and drop material changes), it still gives great results.http://imsidesign.com/Products/Renditioner/RenditionerExpressv3/tabid/1904/Default.aspx
Let me know if there is anything I can do to help, it may be something to get you on the first step of learning. I know that getting something half decent is a good incentive and this might just be a decent first step.
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@davids90gt said:
Is there a deadline on this request? I may be interested in trying to help.
No, there is no deadline to speak of. I only started making the model yesterday so it won't be ready for a while yet. I've never been a particularly fast modeler (in fact I'm a very sloooooow modeler, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. Unfortunately
)@mike amos said:
Hi Steve,
There is a free version of renditioner which is the simplest render program I know of (drag and drop material changes), it still gives great results.http://imsidesign.com/Products/Renditioner/RenditionerExpressv3/tabid/1904/Default.aspx
Thanks for the tip, Mike, but I've had Renditioner Pro for over a year, and while it is fairly simple I abandoned it quite a while ago for several reasons. Their support base is very weak compared to Kerkythea (by support base I mean their forum and the available downloads, etc.), and my experience has been that there didn't seem to be much enthusiasm for providing help to noobs. By comparison Kerk has a much larger support base, and a lot more users that seem willing to lend a hand to those trying to learn the program. Can you imagine trying to learn SU if this forum was weak and unresponsive?
Anyhow those were my impressions.Having said that, I did receive a PM suggesting that I might have better luck with several other render programs that might be more intuitive and easier to grasp. I'm not going to open up the whole can of worms asking for opinions on that subject, I know it has been beat to death here in the forums, with the bottom line being that everyone has a different opinion on which is "best" and "easiest", but there doesn't seem to be a consensus, at least not that I've been able to find.
I have downloaded the trial versions of several different programs, and have watched videos beyond count, but of course the makers of each render program are going to try to put the best light on their program. It's sort of like how a movie preview is going to use only the best scenes, and even if the movie sucks overall it can be made to look good in the preview.
@mike amos said:
Let me know if there is anything I can do to help, it may be something to get you on the first step of learning. I know that getting something half decent is a good incentive and this might just be a decent first step.
Thanks again Mike, much appreciated.
I'll try to post a pic of the model to be rendered so anyone who might be considering taking me up on my offer can get an idea of what they would be working with.
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You're a premium member. Why not try a private thread where a chosen people can help out?
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@pbacot said:
You're a premium member. Why not try a private thread where a chosen people can help out?
I don't understand what you are saying here. I'm new to this premium member stuff and haven't looked into what all it entails. I guess I probably should.
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I meant to write "A FEW chosen people"...not necessarily Moses and his folks.
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http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=373&t=48774
ask and you shall receive
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Here's a shot of the project in question. It's the Ambler-Becker Texaco Service Station in Dwight IL. After 66 years of service it shut down in 1999, and now serves as a Route 66 Welcome Center. I'm trying to make it look like it might have back in it's heyday. Lot of work left to do, especially stocking the interior. This is the first time I've made anything besides cars, so it's a learning experience for me.
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That looks great Steve. Good Job!!!
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@raineysky said:
That looks great Steve. Good Job!!!
Thanks Paul.
I must admit it's kinda nice not having to deal with all the curved surfaces for a change. But really the only reason I'm doing this is because a friend on one of the car forums asked if I would. So I figured I'd give it a shot.
But I still can't render
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That's excellent gas station. First one huh?
Why don't you stick to cars, Show-off?
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So why don't you post the .skp and see what we can do with it. I can explain how to do in in KT.
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Good idea, why not make it a render challenge.
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Ditto good idea
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@unknownuser said:
Wyy don't try Lumion ?
Very funny, very easy and you can make also animation!
(With free version because Pro is a Pro price
And their forum seem very friendly!
Thanks, but I've decided to stick with Kerkythea. Maybe after (if) I figure that one out I will try some others, but my old brain can only support so much right now.
And what do you mean when you say Lumion3d is "very funny"?
@pbacot said:
That's excellent gas station. First one huh?
Why don't you stick to cars, Show-off?
Thanks, and after this I probably will stick with my cars. I must admit though, I was surprised how quickly the modeling goes when you don't have to deal with complex curves and shapes all the time.
@mwm5053 said:
So why don't you post the .skp and see what we can do with it. I can explain how to do in in KT.
@solo said:
Good idea, why not make it a render challenge.
@mwm5053 said:
Ditto good idea
It's not finished enuf to post yet. The only reason I posted the pic was in case somebody was considering taking me up on my offer, I wanted to let them see what they would be working with. But I guess that's not going to happen. Maybe I should up my offer to $300. Let's just say the price is negotiable.
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@unknownuser said:
And what do you mean when you say Lumion3d is "very funny"?
Because like SU, User Interface is so easy and intuitive!
No headache! A game's boy!
(UI is like a "toy" )You make that in minutes!
No possible so easilly with other progs!(not by me
(here with free version as logo shows)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hC6IiF4IoE
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@hellnbak said:
Thanks, but I've decided to stick with Kerkythea. Maybe after (if) I figure that one out I will try some others, but my old brain can only support so much right now.
You could still try Twilight. It is Kerkythea based - in fact, once you set up your scene, materials etc. you can export it into Kerkythea (only with the full, paid version though - but $99 is not a huge sum) and examine how the materials are set up for instance. I have learnt a lot doing this actually.
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