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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
      last edited by

      I don't have experience with Mac toolbars either but is there any chance it's floating somewhere either behind the SU window or off-screen?

      Gai...

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
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        @gaieus said:

        I don't have experience with Mac toolbars either but is there any chance it's floating somewhere either behind the SU window or off-screen?

        That's what I thought as well. I suggested resetting the workspace - but the user did one better and reinstalled SketchUp.

        ...maybe there was the settings left that made it prevail...

        I'll ask the user to reset the workspace.

        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
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          Reset workspace only helps with dialogs/windows (from the Window menu). I do not think it resets the toolbars, too.

          This has happened to me on windows. In case something is behind the SU window, try to move the window around (minimizing it will minimize all toolbars off, too) and if it is off-screen somehow, he can try to make the resolution of the sceen bigger temporarily (if this is possible on Macs) to catch it.

          Gai...

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          • wind-borneW Offline
            wind-borne
            last edited by

            Are we talking about the single button to activate tool?

            Screen Shot 2012-11-23 at 5.56.19 AM.png

            Is the icon visible in customizable toolbar?
            If so, might be more convenient to drag icon(if visible) into customizable toolbar as those single button floating toolbars are annoying anyway… πŸ˜‰

            Shortcut is my preferred method.


            Screen Shot 2012-11-23 at 5.45.35 AM.png

            "To read between the lines was easier than to follow the text."OSX 10.11.6

            %(#BF80BF)[SU 8 pro

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              driven
              last edited by

              you could check the 'defaults' position or just set a new one
              for position-
              defaults write ~/Library/Preferences/com.google.sketchuppro8.plist ALToolPalette_Vertex Tools_frame '150 797 36 304 0 0 1920 1178'``
              or what ever your toolbar is actually called.
              for visibility it's the Sketchup version to give
              <key>SketchUp.Toolbars.Vertex Tools.Visible</key>
              <string>1</string>
              should show up on restart...
              john

              learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
                last edited by

                @wind-borne said:

                Are we talking about the single button to activate tool?

                Yes. I'll point the user to these screenshots and see what he makes out of it.

                Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  gt5
                  last edited by

                  @gaieus said:

                  I don't have experience with Mac toolbars either but is there any chance it's floating somewhere either behind the SU window or off-screen?

                  Hi, I'm the one with the problem. I've eliminated the possibility of it floating behind the SU window. I'll have to think about the off-screen possibility.

                  @wind-borne said:

                  Are we talking about the single button to activate tool?
                  .

                  Nope, the single button is there. It's the long toolbar that appears after one clicks the button that as wondered off.

                  @thomthom said:

                  @wind-borne said:

                  Are we talking about the single button to activate tool?

                  Yes. I'll point the user to these screenshots and see what he makes out of it.

                  No, it's the toolbar not the activate button.

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                  • wind-borneW Offline
                    wind-borne
                    last edited by

                    @gt5 said:

                    Nope, the single button is there. It's the long toolbar that appears after one clicks the button that as wondered off.

                    @thomthom said:

                    @wind-borne said:

                    Are we talking about the single button to activate tool?

                    Yes. I'll point the user to these screenshots and see what he makes out of it.

                    No, it's the toolbar not the activate button.

                    That toolbar does occasionally disappear for me also, usually when editing a group.
                    If I close and reopen group the toolbar reappears in the same space as before when Vertex Tools is reactivated, never had toolbar move.
                    I've gotten used to doing that without giving much thought.

                    "To read between the lines was easier than to follow the text."OSX 10.11.6

                    %(#BF80BF)[SU 8 pro

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                    • G Offline
                      gt5
                      last edited by

                      @wind-borne said:

                      That toolbar does occasionally disappear for me also, usually when editing a group.
                      If I close and reopen group the toolbar reappears in the same space as before when Vertex Tools is reactivated, never had toolbar move.
                      I've gotten used to doing that without giving much thought.

                      I've even tried a new window, 2 quads, no toolbar.

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                        gt5
                        last edited by

                        @driven said:

                        you could check the 'defaults' position or just set a new one
                        for position-
                        defaults write ~/Library/Preferences/com.google.sketchuppro8.plist ALToolPalette_Vertex Tools_frame '150 797 36 304 0 0 1920 1178'``
                        or what ever your toolbar is actually called.
                        for visibility it's the Sketchup version to give
                        <key>SketchUp.Toolbars.Vertex Tools.Visible</key>
                        <string>1</string>
                        should show up on restart...
                        john

                        good idea, didn't work

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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
                          last edited by

                          @wind-borne said:

                          That toolbar does occasionally disappear for me also, usually when editing a group.

                          Really? And only with Vertex Tools? 😲 πŸ˜•

                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                          • thomthomT Offline
                            thomthom
                            last edited by

                            Try this - from Windows > Ruby Console: (Type each command and see what the results are)

                            t=UI.toolbar('Vertex Tools')

                            t.visible?

                            t.get_last_state

                            t.show

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                              gt5
                              last edited by

                              @thomthom said:

                              Try this...

                              t=UI.toolbar('Vertex Tools')
                              #UI::Toolbar:0x165b4e04
                              t.visible?
                              true
                              t.get_last_state
                              1
                              t.show
                              nil

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                              • wind-borneW Offline
                                wind-borne
                                last edited by

                                @thomthom said:

                                @wind-borne said:

                                That toolbar does occasionally disappear for me also, usually when editing a group.

                                Really? And only with Vertex Tools? 😲 πŸ˜•

                                Now we have established gt5's problem is not the button but the toolbar inside of Vertex Tools that is missing.

                                The main toolbar and information panel within Vertex Tools have at times disappeared when editing inside of a group. Vertices will be highlighted blue as if waiting to be selected, no toolbar and nothing can be selected in Vertex Tools until I exit group and reenter group edit mode and open Vertex tools again. Then all functions normal. Select freehand initial tool. Of course I couldn't recreate today πŸ˜†
                                I use a different color for selections in SU, that blue only shows up inside of Vertex Tools.

                                I rely on 'edit vertices' shortcut to activate tool so I never have that initial toolbar button visible if that is what you are asking about.

                                "To read between the lines was easier than to follow the text."OSX 10.11.6

                                %(#BF80BF)[SU 8 pro

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  @gt5 said:

                                  @wind-borne said:

                                  Are we talking about the single button to activate tool?
                                  .

                                  Nope, the single button is there. It's the long toolbar that appears after one clicks the button that as wondered off.

                                  Ah! I completely missed this! 😳 Sorry - now I'm with you!

                                  Ok - lets debug that toolbar:

                                  Can you please type:
                                  TT_Vertex.settings

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                                  • thomthomT Offline
                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by

                                    @wind-borne said:

                                    The main toolbar and information panel within Vertex Tools have at times disappeared when editing inside of a group. Vertices will be highlighted blue as if waiting to be selected, no toolbar and nothing can be selected in Vertex Tools until I exit group and reenter group edit mode and open Vertex tools again. Then all functions normal. Select freehand initial tool. Of course I couldn't recreate today πŸ˜†

                                    When this happens, can you please open the Ruby Console and see if you're getting any error messages?

                                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    • G Offline
                                      gt5
                                      last edited by

                                      @thomthom said:

                                      Ok - lets debug that toolbar:

                                      Can you please type:
                                      TT_Vertex.settings

                                      TT_Vertex.settings
                                      #<TT_Vertex::Settings:0x169d16f4 @section="TT_Vertex", @cache={:remember_uv=>true, :view_normals=>true, :context_menu=>true, :radius=>0.0, :vertexinfo_x=>615, :axis_lock=>false, :normal_size=>20, :vertexinfo_y=>234, :gizmo_visible=>true, :l10n=>"en", :vertex_size=>6, :merge_tolerance=>0.393700787401575, :last_select_tool=>:rect, :last_tool=>"T_Select_Rectangle", :toolbar_x=>1133, :axis=>:local, :auto_smooth=>true, :ss_cos=>false, :toolbar_y=>202, :initial_tool=>"T_Select"}>

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by

                                        hm... And your monitor resolution is larger than 1133px wide? Or, is your viewport that wide?

                                        Sketchup.active_model.active_view.vpwidth

                                        And if you have the Ruby Console open while you use Vertex Tools, do you see any error messages appearing?

                                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        • G Offline
                                          gt5
                                          last edited by

                                          @thomthom said:

                                          hm... And your monitor resolution is larger than 1133px wide? Or, is your viewport that wide?

                                          Sketchup.active_model.active_view.vpwidth

                                          And if you have the Ruby Console open while you use Vertex Tools, do you see any error messages appearing?

                                          Sketchup.active_model.active_view.vpwidth
                                          1766

                                          no errors in console

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                                          • thomthomT Offline
                                            thomthom
                                            last edited by

                                            I'm baffled. πŸ˜•

                                            Could it be an OpenGL issue, hardware? If you disable hardware acceleration under Preferences - does that have an effect?

                                            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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