Disappearing toolbar under OSX?
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@gaieus said:
I don't have experience with Mac toolbars either but is there any chance it's floating somewhere either behind the SU window or off-screen?
Hi, I'm the one with the problem. I've eliminated the possibility of it floating behind the SU window. I'll have to think about the off-screen possibility.
@wind-borne said:
Are we talking about the single button to activate tool?
.Nope, the single button is there. It's the long toolbar that appears after one clicks the button that as wondered off.
@thomthom said:
@wind-borne said:
Are we talking about the single button to activate tool?
Yes. I'll point the user to these screenshots and see what he makes out of it.
No, it's the toolbar not the activate button.
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@gt5 said:
Nope, the single button is there. It's the long toolbar that appears after one clicks the button that as wondered off.
@thomthom said:
@wind-borne said:
Are we talking about the single button to activate tool?
Yes. I'll point the user to these screenshots and see what he makes out of it.
No, it's the toolbar not the activate button.
That toolbar does occasionally disappear for me also, usually when editing a group.
If I close and reopen group the toolbar reappears in the same space as before when Vertex Tools is reactivated, never had toolbar move.
I've gotten used to doing that without giving much thought. -
@wind-borne said:
That toolbar does occasionally disappear for me also, usually when editing a group.
If I close and reopen group the toolbar reappears in the same space as before when Vertex Tools is reactivated, never had toolbar move.
I've gotten used to doing that without giving much thought.I've even tried a new window, 2 quads, no toolbar.
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@driven said:
you could check the 'defaults' position or just set a new one
for position-
or what ever your toolbar is actually called.
for visibility it's the Sketchup version to give
<key>SketchUp.Toolbars.Vertex Tools.Visible</key>
<string>1</string>
should show up on restart...
johngood idea, didn't work
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@wind-borne said:
That toolbar does occasionally disappear for me also, usually when editing a group.
Really? And only with Vertex Tools?
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Try this - from
Windows > Ruby Console: (Type each command and see what the results are)t=UI.toolbar('Vertex Tools')t.visible?t.get_last_statet.show -
@thomthom said:
Try this...
t=UI.toolbar('Vertex Tools')
#UI::Toolbar:0x165b4e04
t.visible?
true
t.get_last_state
1
t.show
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@thomthom said:
@wind-borne said:
That toolbar does occasionally disappear for me also, usually when editing a group.
Really? And only with Vertex Tools?
Now we have established gt5's problem is not the button but the toolbar inside of Vertex Tools that is missing.
The main toolbar and information panel within Vertex Tools have at times disappeared when editing inside of a group. Vertices will be highlighted blue as if waiting to be selected, no toolbar and nothing can be selected in Vertex Tools until I exit group and reenter group edit mode and open Vertex tools again. Then all functions normal. Select freehand initial tool. Of course I couldn't recreate today
I use a different color for selections in SU, that blue only shows up inside of Vertex Tools.I rely on 'edit vertices' shortcut to activate tool so I never have that initial toolbar button visible if that is what you are asking about.
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@gt5 said:
@wind-borne said:
Are we talking about the single button to activate tool?
.Nope, the single button is there. It's the long toolbar that appears after one clicks the button that as wondered off.
Ah! I completely missed this!
Sorry - now I'm with you!Ok - lets debug that toolbar:
Can you please type:
TT_Vertex.settings -
@wind-borne said:
The main toolbar and information panel within Vertex Tools have at times disappeared when editing inside of a group. Vertices will be highlighted blue as if waiting to be selected, no toolbar and nothing can be selected in Vertex Tools until I exit group and reenter group edit mode and open Vertex tools again. Then all functions normal. Select freehand initial tool. Of course I couldn't recreate today
When this happens, can you please open the Ruby Console and see if you're getting any error messages?
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@thomthom said:
Ok - lets debug that toolbar:
Can you please type:
TT_Vertex.settingsTT_Vertex.settings
#<TT_Vertex::Settings:0x169d16f4 @section="TT_Vertex", @cache={:remember_uv=>true, :view_normals=>true, :context_menu=>true, :radius=>0.0, :vertexinfo_x=>615, :axis_lock=>false, :normal_size=>20, :vertexinfo_y=>234, :gizmo_visible=>true, :l10n=>"en", :vertex_size=>6, :merge_tolerance=>0.393700787401575, :last_select_tool=>:rect, :last_tool=>"T_Select_Rectangle", :toolbar_x=>1133, :axis=>:local, :auto_smooth=>true, :ss_cos=>false, :toolbar_y=>202, :initial_tool=>"T_Select"}> -
hm... And your monitor resolution is larger than 1133px wide? Or, is your viewport that wide?
Sketchup.active_model.active_view.vpwidthAnd if you have the Ruby Console open while you use Vertex Tools, do you see any error messages appearing?
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@thomthom said:
hm... And your monitor resolution is larger than 1133px wide? Or, is your viewport that wide?
Sketchup.active_model.active_view.vpwidthAnd if you have the Ruby Console open while you use Vertex Tools, do you see any error messages appearing?
Sketchup.active_model.active_view.vpwidth
1766no errors in console
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I'm baffled.
Could it be an OpenGL issue, hardware? If you disable hardware acceleration under Preferences - does that have an effect?
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@thomthom said:
I'm baffled.
Could it be an OpenGL issue, hardware? If you disable hardware acceleration under Preferences - does that have an effect?
Ok, this is just weird:
Turned off HA
Dialog says: The change will take effect for new windows
Toolbar returns in the existing window
However, now it's gone again regardless of HA setting! (I even tried restart.)I may need to reinstall the OS--not fun
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That is very strange. What are you hardware specs? What is the graphic card?
Is it possible to update the graphic driver - or is that done automatically by OSX? -
Do you notice any artefacts in any other applications?
What about Fredo's tools - he uses similar technique to draw the UI as I do. -
@thomthom said:
That is very strange. What are you hardware specs? What is the graphic card?
Is it possible to update the graphic driver - or is that done automatically by OSX?2010 Quad-Core 2.93 GHz i7 iMac
16GB RAM
ATI Radeon HD 5750 1GB Graphics Ram OpenGL 3.2Can not upgrade driver
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@thomthom said:
Do you notice any artefacts in any other applications?
What about Fredo's tools - he uses similar technique to draw the UI as I do.no problems with other apps or fredo's stuff
sketchup (and only sketchup) itself crashes a lot
it may, in fact, be the most poorly written high profile app ever--they know there's something terribly wrong or they wouldn't have two different, simultaneous, autosaves! (And neither of them work as advertised!)
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Two different simultaneous autosaves? Worst written high profile App? We must not be using the same software. Mine almost never crashes (except when I'm doing particularly grueling things to it in terms of high poly models).
but seriously, simultaneous autosaves, what does that mean? I've never seen that. Mac thing? Or is your SU really borked?
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