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        `tt,
        that's your browser not recognising the UFT8 apple icon. IE sometimes will show the Windows icon.

        I use it as a line marker for mac only scripts I'm testing, so when I had 3 time now's I could find the end of each easily.
        john

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          I use Firefox.
          Firefox understands UTF-8. There's some conversion going on here that mangles the formatting.

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            driven
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            The Apple Logo in Unicode

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            @unknownuser said:

            This is probably fine for Mac-only applications. But it is NOT appropriate, and even WRONG, and it will NOT work properly as a general web page character. The problem is that the unicode value used is one of several that is set aside for private use. That means that each operating system, or application, or implementation is free to use those unicode characters for anything they want. It just so happens that Apple has chosen to use unicode character U+F8FF (decimal value 63743, or on the web as either  or ) as the Apple Logo. But some Windows fonts put in a Windows logo. And some other fonts put in a Klingon Mummification glyph. Or elven script. Or anything they want. And if it isn't defined in your local font, you'll just see a square. So who knows what you might see when I put the character in right here: 

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              Ah - a non-standard. That explains it.

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                driven
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                Found the problem, and a massive speed-up...
                > t=Time.now fontList=(/opt/X11/bin/fc-list : file family | grep /Library/Fonts).split("\n").collect { |f| f.split(":")[1] }.collect { |f| f.split(",")[0] }.to_a.uniq.compact.sort[5..-1] fin=Time.now-t puts fontList.length puts fin, Time.now-t puts fontList puts Time.now-t 296 0.049741 0.056441 *...print fonts* 1.440642
                however............ not everyone has X11
                john

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                  driven
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                  But, the good news is brew install fontconfig will put it in 'usr/local/bin/fc-list' without all the X11 or hidden system fonts... speed on first run, slower, but still acceptable
                  then, the penny dropped that you no longer need grep or one of the collects, so
                  t=Time.now fontList=(/usr/local/bin/fc-list : family ).split("\n").collect { |f| f.split(",")[0] }.to_a.uniq.compact.sort fin=Time.now-t puts fontList.length puts fin, Time.now-t puts fontList puts fontList.length puts fin, Time.now-t 274 0.017442 0.023794 ...print fonts 1.363478
                  not to shabby
                  john

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                    So you HAVE got fc-list to work after all! 😄
                    Don't you need to include 'file' in the output as well as 'family' and grep for '.ttf' because 3dText needs a /ttf and the 'family only' way might also list .otf fonts etc too, which 3dText might baulk at ?
                    Something more like:
                    fontList=(/usr/local/bin/fc-list : file family | grep .ttf:).split("\n").collect{|f|f.split(": ")[1].split(",")[0]}.to_a.uniq.compact.sort
                    I'm not sure how you deal with the ".ttf:" - it perhaps needs some \ escaping ??
                    If the 'grep' inside the MAC OS side is slower than doing a 'next unless f=~/.ttf: /' on the Ruby side, then you can add it into the 'collect' block instead...

                    TIG

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                    • thomthomT Offline
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                      You got data back from fc-list using SketchUp Ruby??? ... but using a full path, that's the only change?

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                        fontList=(/usr/local/bin/fc-list : family ) returned nothing on my machine.

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                          driven
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                          @tig said:

                          So you HAVE got fc-list to work after all! 😄
                          Don't you need to include 'file' in the output as well as 'family' and grep for '.ttf' because 3dText needs a /ttf and the 'family only' way might also list .otf fonts etc too, which 3dText might baulk at ?

                          YES... using fontList=(**/opt/X11/bin/fc-list** : file family | grep \/Library\/Fonts), but just to avoid X11 fonts, otherwise, all types [.ttf, otf, ttc] returned, work in SU [tested last weekend], so /Library/Fonts filter is OK.

                          @unknownuser said:

                          If the 'grep' inside the MAC OS side is slower than doing a 'next unless f=~/.ttf: /' on the Ruby side, then you can add it into the 'collect' block instead...

                          it's the core dump size that slows things down
                          IF YOU HAVE IT INSTALLED...
                          > t=Time.now fontList=(/opt/X11/bin/fc-list : file family `)
                          fin=Time.now-t
                          puts fontList.length
                          puts fin

                          138048
                          0.055793
                          nilBut,**%(#0040FF)[IF YOU HAVE IT INSTALLED...]** > t=Time.now
                          fontList=(/usr/local/bin/fc-list : file family )
                          fin=Time.now-t
                          puts fontList.length
                          puts fin

                          22832
                          0.073191
                          nil

                          t=Time.now
                          fontList=(/usr/local/bin/fc-list : family )
                          fin=Time.now-t
                          puts fontList.length
                          puts fin

                          5921
                          0.016585
                          nil`
                          now I've realised the full path bit, there may be other ways without using fc-list...
                          john

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                          • thomthomT Offline
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                            You are using these paths:

                            /opt/X11/bin/fc-list
                            /usr/local/bin/fc-list

                            That didn't work for me (10.5). But this worked:
                            /usr/X11/bin/fc-list

                            Are any of the paths working across OSX versions?

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                              So, because I've had problems even getting the data I've ignored the fact that you've been also getting the filename and grepping out by path. What is the reason for this. So you only get fonts that works in SketchUp?

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                                This worked on my machine:

                                <span class="syntaxdefault"><br />data&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=&nbsp;(`</span><span class="syntaxstring">/usr/X11/bin/fc-list&nbsp;;&nbsp;file&nbsp;family&nbsp;|&nbsp;grep&nbsp;\/Library\/Fonts</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">`)<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">fonts&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">data</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">scan</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(/[^;]+[;]\</span><span class="syntaxdefault">s</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">*(.*)/).</span><span class="syntaxdefault">flatten</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">!<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">fonts</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">map</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">!&nbsp;{&nbsp;|</span><span class="syntaxdefault">string</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">|&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">string</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">split</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxstring">','</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)&nbsp;}.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">flatten</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">!&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxcomment">#&nbsp;Some&nbsp;lines&nbsp;include&nbsp;multiple&nbsp;fonts.<br />&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault"></span>
                                

                                😍

                                Now it's just a matter of reliably finding the path on all the systems.

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                                  <span class="syntaxdefault"><br />def&nbsp;get_osx_fonts<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;fc_list_locations&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=&nbsp;[<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxstring">'/opt/X11/bin/fc-list'</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxstring">'/usr/local/bin/fc-list'</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxstring">'/usr/X11/bin/fc-list'<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">]<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">fc_list&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">fc_list_locations</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">find&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">{&nbsp;|</span><span class="syntaxdefault">location</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">|&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">File</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">exist</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">?(&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">location&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)&nbsp;}<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;if&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">fc_list</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">nil</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">?<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">puts&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxstring">'Warning;&nbsp;Could&nbsp;not&nbsp;find&nbsp;fc-list!'<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">return&nbsp;[]<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">end<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;data&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=&nbsp;(`</span><span class="syntaxstring">#{fc_list}&nbsp;;&nbsp;file&nbsp;family&nbsp;|&nbsp;grep&nbsp;\/Library\/Fonts</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">`)<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">fonts&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">data</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">scan</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(/[^;]+[;]\</span><span class="syntaxdefault">s</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">*(.*)/).</span><span class="syntaxdefault">flatten</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">!<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">fonts</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">map</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">!&nbsp;{&nbsp;|</span><span class="syntaxdefault">string</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">|&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">string</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">split</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxstring">','</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)&nbsp;}.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">flatten</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">!&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxcomment">#&nbsp;Some&nbsp;lines&nbsp;include&nbsp;multiple&nbsp;fonts.<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">fonts</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">uniq</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">!<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">fonts</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">sort</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">!&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxcomment">#&nbsp;(!)&nbsp;Not&nbsp;UTF-8&nbsp;compatible!&nbsp;But&nbsp;better&nbsp;than&nbsp;nothing.<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">fonts<br />end<br /></span>
                                  

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                                    hi TT,
                                    I did PM before I saw this, I would split it into 3 conditional block

                                    the first would use /usr/local/bin/fc-list
                                    if you revisit http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=48761&p=443899#p441686 you'll see that you don't need to grep /usr/local/bin/fc-list, because it avoids the system and X11 fonts already.

                                    second choose last in find /**/bin/fc-list array, for the latest X11 version

                                    third default to 'FontBook' it's on every mac....

                                    john

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                                      Isn't fc-list on every mac?

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                                        driven
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                                        @thomthom said:

                                        Isn't fc-list on every mac?

                                        TT... don't you read PM's or the posts... [I am laughing]

                                        reminds me of when you answer some of your 'clients'

                                        The whole reason I went round in circles is fc=list has never been 'standard' on a mac.

                                        a lot of people use to have xcode and it came with that as part of fontconfig for X11,

                                        or if you have Wings3D, Gimp, Inkscape or Imagemagics you'd have it, so a few SU'ers will. but they all have FontBook it's a mac core app....

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                                          driven
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                                          TO RECAP
                                          This is the fastest I can get a usable list from X11
                                          if I remove .split[-2] from fontPath it uses /usr/local/bin and is twice as fast, same result... so the one could be used for any fc-list installed, without hardcoding a path.

                                           fontPath=(`find /*/*/bin/fc-list`).split[-2]
                                          fontList=(`#{fontPath}  ; file family | grep \/Library\/Fonts`).split("\n").collect { |f| f.split(";")[1] }.collect { |f| f.split(",")[0].strip}.to_a.uniq.compact.sort[5..-5]
                                          

                                          the .sort[5..-5] cleans out the dot files at top and some other cruft the the bottom...
                                          john
                                          EDIT: I missed a .strip that stop them running... leading whitespace.
                                          on test a couple are getting through that shouldn't
                                          *** macFonts group Error! *** i = 38 chunk = 4 font = Bitstream Charter Error #<TypeError: reference to deleted Group> Error: #<TypeError: (eval):282:inname=': reference to deleted Group>
                                          (eval):299
                                          (eval):282
                                          (eval):274:in times' (eval):274

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                                            @driven said:

                                            TT... don't you read PM's or the posts... [I am laughing]

                                            I've become so confused on this whole topic. 😕

                                            @driven said:

                                            This is the fastest I can get a usable list from X11

                                            fontPath=(find ///bin/fc-list).split[-2]
                                            That command was very slow on my mac.

                                            @driven said:

                                            the .sort[5..-5] cleans out the dot files at top and some other cruft the the bottom...
                                            Can you be sure this is the same on all machines? I'm hesitant to use magic numbers.

                                            OSX is giving me headackes in regard to this plugin. I'm tempted to just drop it all together. Taking too much time.

                                            At the moment I'm looking at first attempting fc-list, if it's installed. (Might have to do a search - so I have to cache that.) Then fall back to AppleScript and FontBook - also slow so it also needs a cache list (meaning the list won't automatically keep in sync.)

                                            sigh

                                            And that's not including the crashing...

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