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    • jeff hammondJ Offline
      jeff hammond
      last edited by

      yeah starling.. something more along those lines (not blobby etc)

      funny you posted that because my shape is spiral as well..
      actually 2 of them interacting.

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      • gillesG Offline
        gilles
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        Tell us more, we want to know! πŸŽ‰

        " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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        • jeff hammondJ Offline
          jeff hammond
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          @gilles said:

          Tell us more, we want to know! πŸŽ‰

          I sort of just figured it out on the train..
          the red line is a helix on its side.. the black is a line along the ground..
          then theres a surface created between the two..

          it gets a little more tech than that so it will be functional but I think this is the gist of it..
          I'll try modeling it a little later..

          http://db.tt/yLH2k6ZH

          edit.. so maybe the Dropbox link doesn't embed.. try:
          http://db.tt/yLH2k6ZH

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
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            Here the image of the Jeff helix tricky project πŸ˜„
            Jeff_helix.jpg

            Without more info it's some difficult to see something πŸ˜„
            Maybe a start ? πŸ˜„

            http://www.monkeychoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/helice.jpg

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • Rich O BrienR Offline
              Rich O Brien Moderator
              last edited by

              Is the helix projecting itself on the ground and this is rotated?

              Here's my 2 cents....
              Jeff_Weird_Drawing.skp

              It's like Being John Malkovich

              Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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              • brookefoxB Offline
                brookefox
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                @starling75 said:

                .. keep it simple πŸ˜‰

                "Initially, no definite geometry for the shells had been established, but, as work progressed, the shells were developed according to a spherical geometry and we suddenly had a common denominator, the same spherical surface to deal with, with a similar curvature throughout.
                This was an elegant solution to a construction...
                Jorn Utzon

                https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-MWoj-Pfx3-8/T7vqLdLbCyI/AAAAAAAAE1U/Tj18-TamWgQ/s585/UTZON.jpg

                That sounds really nice, but is fairly typical isn't it, as a goal and a practice? Consistent geometry, prefab. ... He's kind of over-blowing it a bit, but certainly a good sell and a wonderful image.

                Nice link and read. Thanks.

                ~ Brooke

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                • jeff hammondJ Offline
                  jeff hammond
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                  @rich o brien said:

                  Is the helix projecting itself on the ground and this is rotated?

                  Here's my 2 cents....
                  [attachment=0:3ij5gepn]<!-- ia0 -->Jeff_Weird_Drawing.skp<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:3ij5gepn]

                  It's like Being John Malkovich

                  screenshot or SU for iPhone please..
                  whichever is easiest πŸ˜‰

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                  • Rich O BrienR Offline
                    Rich O Brien Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Jeffrey_Hammond.png

                    Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                    • GaieusG Offline
                      Gaieus
                      last edited by

                      I also often have similar shapes in my head, Rich, but my wife keeps slapping me at the back of my head when I do. πŸ˜’

                      Gai...

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                      • jeff hammondJ Offline
                        jeff hammond
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                        @rich o brien said:

                        [attachment=0:buqmaum4]<!-- ia0 -->Jeffrey_Hammond.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:buqmaum4]

                        hmm.. maybe that's not it
                        actually. I think it is but your version has the projected helix rotated too much.

                        fwiw, the actual shape i need is to be cut out of the surface.. much in the same way the opera house was cut from a sphere.. I just have to figure out some logic behind the main shape so I can figure out how to build this..

                        fwiw2.. I haven't actually been commissioned to build this thing.. if I can make the model and it ends up being as cool as the original momentofinspiration, then I'm gonna try to sell it. πŸ’š

                        edit- fwiw3.. the red/black sketched image pilou posted is the top view.. looking at it with that in mind, you'll see the twist I'm (i think) going for..

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                        • Rich O BrienR Offline
                          Rich O Brien Moderator
                          last edited by

                          I rotated it 90 because your brainwaves don't stretch across the Atlantic... πŸ˜’

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                          • jeff hammondJ Offline
                            jeff hammond
                            last edited by

                            @rich o brien said:

                            I rotated it 90 because your brainwaves don't stretch across the Atlantic... πŸ˜’

                            haha..
                            don't get me wrong, your drawing helps me see more clearly what I'm after so thanks for posting it.

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                            • Rich O BrienR Offline
                              Rich O Brien Moderator
                              last edited by

                              Jeffrey_Hammond.png

                              Attempt #2

                              rotation lessened

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                              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                jeff hammond
                                last edited by

                                @rich o brien said:

                                [attachment=0:2p45tc8v]<!-- ia0 -->Jeffrey_Hammond.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:2p45tc8v]

                                Attempt #2

                                rotation lessened

                                heh.. I think that's almost it.. the helix should touch the ground though. (the two lowest points of the helix-- resulting in the two end profile lines being on a horizontal plane.

                                I'm about 20 minutes away from a computer.. itching to try it myself now

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                                • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                  Rich O Brien Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  I've just patented the design so it'll cost you.

                                  Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                                  • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                    Rich O Brien Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Jeffrey_Hammond.png

                                    Jeff_Weird_Drawing.skp

                                    Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                                    • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                      jeff hammond
                                      last edited by

                                      @rich o brien said:

                                      I've just patented the design so it'll cost you.

                                      ha.. wouldn't be the first time that's happened πŸ˜’
                                      πŸ˜‰

                                      so i drew the thing as in the sketch and it's not quite right yet.. (and #$%#@ing SU crashed prior to me saving the rough go)… but definitely getting closer.. still thinking about using clay..

                                      gonna try the crayola stuff marcus is talking about.. thanks for the info on that stuff d12dozr!

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                                      • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                        Rich O Brien Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        wouldn't be the first time that's happened

                                        i wouldn't do a 'dug' on you. I'm a bketterman than that.

                                        Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                                        • mitcorbM Offline
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                                          last edited by

                                          who is bketterman?

                                          I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                                          • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                            Rich O Brien Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            @mitcorb said:

                                            who is bketterman?

                                            @Tim
                                            spellcheck acting up

                                            Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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