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    • mitcorbM Offline
      mitcorb
      last edited by

      As I understand it, the red lines represent a top reference line and a bottom reference line only in the red direction. The green lines similar but in the green direction. Maybe you can set the green lines along the nosings of the stair in the background?...or the mortar joints running left to right in the image? I know it helps to have a shot that shows more of two faces meeting at a common corner.

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      • tibetT Offline
        tibet
        last edited by

        hi Tim,
        thanks for a tip.
        i´ve tried once again, this time it looks much better, but i think,it´s not 100% okey.
        hope to catch it soon, tomorrow i´ve to start real drawing 😳
        i´d be very grateful, if someone will reveal the truth.
        i know the shot isn´t as good as should be, but i have just this one.

        http://i40.tinypic.com/9amyxe.jpg

        http://i52.tinypic.com/zujcp1.jpg

        SU 2015 Pro on Win10 x64

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        • Dave RD Offline
          Dave R
          last edited by

          Unfortunately you don't have good lines in that photo for both the red and green axes. You really need a different view. I think I would use the image as a reference without using it as a Match Photo sort of thing. Or you need to go rephotograph the site.

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          • HieruH Offline
            Hieru
            last edited by

            Alternatively you could adjust the perspective in the photo (using PS or similar) unil you get some good red and green axis lines.

            www.davidhier.co.uk

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            • tibetT Offline
              tibet
              last edited by

              hi,

              thanks for tips, but i have no other chance to make another shot, have to use this one.

              t thought, it won´t be a problem to make an exception in this case.

              i know the lines have to be set in difference angle from usual, but where to place them right?

              there´are some additional lines with red and green which i didn´t see in videos, i´m sure they´re important.

              http://i52.tinypic.com/zujcp1.jpg

              SU 2015 Pro on Win10 x64

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
                last edited by

                @tibet said:

                1. is there any plugin to help to save only used textures and colors in particular model please?( the rest´ll be deleted )

                This one by Aerilius may be interesting:
                http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=41441

                @tibet said:

                1. any hotkey to draw rectangular from middle point like circle?

                How about a 4 sided polygon? (it will always be the special "square" case of a rectangle though)

                Gai...

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                • pbacotP Offline
                  pbacot
                  last edited by

                  I don't think anything like perfect is achievable with Match Photo. It is what it is. How does your model look in the photo?

                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                  • tibetT Offline
                    tibet
                    last edited by

                    hi,

                    finally, i´ve done somehow , but it´s not perfect as i like it to be.

                    .........................................................................................................................................

                    any experience with photomaching work with problematic photos are heartly welcomed !

                    best of luck and do not hesitate to post your work! it´s often inspiring for us all.

                    thanks for stopping by.

                    questions:

                    1. is there any plugin to help to save only used textures and colors

                      in particular model please?( the rest of trash will be deleted)

                    2. any hotkey to draw rectangular from middle point like circle?

                    http://img.acianetmedia.com/i/xO5Nt.jpg

                    http://i52.tinypic.com/zujcp1.jpg

                    SU 2015 Pro on Win10 x64

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                    • Dave RD Offline
                      Dave R
                      last edited by

                      What happens when you click on the black right=pointing arrow to the right of "In Model" and click on Purge Unused?

                      By the way, when you open a new file, how many materials show up in the In Model library? If you have any, purge them. If they won't go away, purge unused components first.

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                      • tibetT Offline
                        tibet
                        last edited by

                        hi Dave,

                        thank you very much, all my unused model leftovers´s been trown "purched" away

                        i´m glad to have you around !

                        cheers!

                        http://i52.tinypic.com/zujcp1.jpg

                        SU 2015 Pro on Win10 x64

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                        • tibetT Offline
                          tibet
                          last edited by

                          hi Gaieus,

                          thanks for valuable tips, very nice indeed.

                          i can´t believe it, i missed 4-sided polygon, you hit the jackpot

                          Make Unique Texture ++ is truly amazing plugin, i´m sure it comes handy.

                          by the way, don´t you remember plugin, which helps you to get rid off textures and materials ,

                          which aren´t used in the model /see below

                          hi pbacot,

                          well, the photo doesn´t mach exactly, because i got some fixed distances i have to use it for basic construction.

                          best of luck!

                          http://img.acianetmedia.com/i/FwkH.jpg

                          http://i52.tinypic.com/zujcp1.jpg

                          http://i42.tinypic.com/t0hg9c.jpg

                          SU 2015 Pro on Win10 x64

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                          • tibetT Offline
                            tibet
                            last edited by

                            hi guys,
                            i´ve encountered the same problem as before ( pic on the right side)
                            is this deformated effect created by an agle of shooting or camera intself, so that i can´t properly put green and red lines?
                            thanks

                            http://i52.tinypic.com/zujcp1.jpg

                            http://img.acianetmedia.com/i/Pv9OQ.jpg


                            photomatch1.skp

                            SU 2015 Pro on Win10 x64

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                            • tibetT Offline
                              tibet
                              last edited by

                              hi,
                              well, usually i get just 1 shot from someone to make model into it.
                              i dont have another one, and this is uncropped, only reduced copy.
                              the original has 6MB.
                              any idea which side is wrong and how to fix eg.in photoshop?
                              thanks

                              http://img.acianetmedia.com/i/Pv9OQ.jpg

                              SU 2015 Pro on Win10 x64

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                              • pbacotP Offline
                                pbacot
                                last edited by

                                are you sure these photos are not cropped? I was curious and they looked to me to be different aspect ratios.

                                Wait, that looks a lot like two photos stuck side by side. Different light etc. Yes it works better if you cut out just the right photo. You should only Match Photo with one shot unchanged as it comes from your camera, without cropping, borders, or distortion.

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                                • pbacotP Offline
                                  pbacot
                                  last edited by

                                  See my edit above.

                                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                  • tibetT Offline
                                    tibet
                                    last edited by

                                    hi,
                                    thanks , but the another photo has nothing to do with it.
                                    i just uploaded them together, so i can use it as texture in SU for another model.
                                    unfortunately, neither of them are cropped.
                                    cheers

                                    http://i52.tinypic.com/zujcp1.jpg

                                    SU 2015 Pro on Win10 x64

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                                    • Dave RD Offline
                                      Dave R
                                      last edited by

                                      Something is different with that photo. I can't put my finger on it but it isn't something you're doing wrong with Match Photo. Are you in need of the materials off that thing? If not, I think it would be easier to draw it by hand without the photo.

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                                      • tibetT Offline
                                        tibet
                                        last edited by

                                        hi dave,
                                        there´s uploaded skp file with photo.
                                        well, often i use original file, beause they wanted me to do like that 😄
                                        i´ve redraw it, but i´m still waiting for tip how to do successful photomaching with any kind of shot i get.
                                        cheers!

                                        http://i52.tinypic.com/zujcp1.jpg

                                        SU 2015 Pro on Win10 x64

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                                        • Dave RD Offline
                                          Dave R
                                          last edited by

                                          Just for the heck of it, trim the photo to get rid of the left half. Does that change anything for setting up Photo Match?

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                                          • pbacotP Offline
                                            pbacot
                                            last edited by

                                            I believe Match Photo needs the shape (aspect ratio) of the photo to be correct, because it is often shown that an altered photo will not work. I took off the left side and the right side seemed to work more normally. In my experience you should be able to make the blue line vertical and place it where you like.

                                            In an image editor you select the right side as best you can, with a rectangle selection, and "crop" it. Re-save image. Then begin again in SU with a new Match Photo.

                                            You need to get them to let you take your own photo. Match Photo obviously uses calculations about photographs to simulate its perspective view. The only information SU gets, besides you outlining the perspective lines, is the shape and size of the photograph.

                                            MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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