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    • masoM Offline
      maso
      last edited by

      Hello
      Think I found a bug.
      When i copy an instance of a component and scale it, SU makes it unique. Fredo scale works fine though. Seems the problem is in the component size, it handles it fine without the car..
      Any hints?
      Thanks
      Massich


      component unique car.skp

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      • pilouP Offline
        pilou
        last edited by

        @unknownuser said:

        When i copy an instance of a component and scale it, SU makes it unique.

        Normal! ๐Ÿค“
        But it's just the transformation who is "unique" ! Component itself stay an instance! ๐Ÿค“
        You must edit it ! ๐Ÿ˜Ž
        Edit Component/ Select all and Scale it! ๐Ÿ˜‰

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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        • masoM Offline
          maso
          last edited by

          @unknownuser said:

          But it's just the transformation who is "unique" ! Component itself stay an instance! ๐Ÿค“
          You must edit it !
          Edit Component/ Select all and Scale it! ๐Ÿ˜‰

          To make myself clear I need the component mirrored.. Only the copied instance. (It mirrors with mistakes, bench gets higher) and the component is transformed into a new one. (component#2 instead of component#18 with fredoscale it stays component#18)
          M.


          component unique car mirred.skp

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            There is something wrong with your SUp7 [>>>reinstall] OR you have some flaky 3rd-party script loading that messes with the native Scale class methods.
            What happens if there are no scripts loaded ???

            I can open your SKP in v8 OR v7 and make a copy of the component [Move+Ctrl] and then Scale it using -1 [to hand it], and it's fine.
            It reports 2 instances in Entity Info etc as expected.
            If I copy/paste it then Scale it or use the Mirror tool I get the same result.
            Scaling an instance does [should] NOT make it unique...

            It's not a 'known bug' - I'm afraid it's YOU ! ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

            TIG

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            • masoM Offline
              maso
              last edited by

              @tig said:

              There is something wrong with your SUp7

              Thanks guys for quick replys.
              The problem happend on my bosses SU, where he uses almost none scripts. Just skindigo and supodium v2. He runs v. 7.1.6860 pro.
              so its not just me ๐Ÿ˜„
              Could you please help with how to run SU without scripts?
              TU
              M.

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              • masoM Offline
                maso
                last edited by

                @unknownuser said:

                Maybe it's that who make something wrong in the Scale function ?

                Doesnt seem like that. Scales just fine with SUscale when i delete the car..(and a big 3D tree wich was there originaly)

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  OK I see!
                  Your Bench is a "dynamic component"!
                  Maybe it's that who make something wrong in the Scale function ?

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                  • TIGT Offline
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by

                    I get no issues with the car/tree or anything else.
                    I tested it on that very v7 version [Vista] - it Scaled OK with any 'uniqueness' issues.
                    To disable scripts simply rename the Sketchup../Plugins folder temporarily as 'Disabled', make a new empty 'Plugins' folder.
                    Try and see if it works now.
                    If so you know that something in Plugins is messing with your 'Copy >>> Scale -1' etc...
                    If not then a reinstall might help... ๐Ÿ˜•
                    If you think it's a script, then to find the culprit-script move all of the subfolders back into Plugins and move half of the scripts back in too. If the problem recurs then the issue is with one of the scripts you just moved in. If not it's with one of the scripts left in 'Disabled', move half again... this way you can narrow it down and find the problem file[s]...
                    Let us know what it is ! ๐Ÿ˜’

                    TIG

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
                      last edited by

                      So Explode it / make a normal component and all will works fine!
                      ๐Ÿ˜Ž
                      big bench.jpg

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                      • masoM Offline
                        maso
                        last edited by

                        @unknownuser said:

                        So Explode it / make a normal component and all will works fine!
                        ๐Ÿ˜Ž

                        sure i've tried that in a first place. exploding and recreating doesnt work as well

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                        • masoM Offline
                          maso
                          last edited by

                          @tig said:

                          I get no issues with the car/tree or anything else.

                          No change with plugins disabled.
                          I also noticed that the component with a car changed got uniqued pls find attached.


                          move.jpg

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                          • masoM Offline
                            maso
                            last edited by

                            @unknownuser said:

                            I have the same problem as described first post when I scale the original with the bench as Dynamic Component
                            But no Problem when I transform the bench in Normal Component
                            Scaling seems normal as shown on my image above โ“
                            Of course the car is scaling also because I don't move it before the tool scale ๐Ÿ˜„

                            OH! you are right! I thought it worked before when i tried without a car, but now a see its the bench! Thaaanks ๐ŸŽ‰ what a drama ๐Ÿ˜„

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                            • pilouP Offline
                              pilou
                              last edited by

                              I have the same problem as described first post when I scale the original with the bench as Dynamic Component
                              (even without copy move)
                              But no Problem when I transform the bench in Normal Component
                              Scaling seems normal as shown on my image above โ“
                              Of course the car is scaling also because I don't move it before the tool scale ๐Ÿ˜„

                              Frenchy Pilou
                              Is beautiful that please without concept!
                              My Little site :)

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                              • masoM Offline
                                maso
                                last edited by

                                @maso said:

                                @unknownuser said:

                                I have the same problem as described first post when I scale the original with the bench as Dynamic Component
                                But no Problem when I transform the bench in Normal Component
                                Scaling seems normal as shown on my image above โ“
                                Of course the car is scaling also because I don't move it before the tool scale ๐Ÿ˜„

                                OH! you are right! I thought it worked before when i tried without a car, but now a see its the bench! Thaaanks ๐ŸŽ‰ what a drama ๐Ÿ˜„

                                Okey, bug found. Its the bench. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ such a simple component ?!

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                                • masoM Offline
                                  maso
                                  last edited by

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  :enlight:

                                  It's not a simple Component, it's a Dynamic Component!
                                  Sure action of Dynamic Component depends of WHO and HOW it was made! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                  My boss just confessed ๐Ÿ˜„
                                  He "redesigned" the standard scalable dynamic bench from the internet.. didnt really work ๐Ÿ˜„

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                                  • pilouP Offline
                                    pilou
                                    last edited by

                                    โ˜€

                                    It's not a simple Component, it's a Dynamic Component!
                                    Sure action of Dynamic Component depends of WHO and HOW it was made! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                    So in this case seems it was not good coded!
                                    It makes a false axis Scales & Move during just a 2D Scale! ๐Ÿ˜’

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                    • masoM Offline
                                      maso
                                      last edited by

                                      Thank You both guys for your help.
                                      Issue solved, still it seems to be a bug.
                                      Quite complicated to achieve, but stil a bug ๐Ÿ˜„
                                      Thanks again
                                      M.

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                                      • pilouP Offline
                                        pilou
                                        last edited by

                                        The Boss has always right! ๐Ÿ˜„
                                        But modify a Dynamic Component is some dangerous without some experience of that! ๐Ÿ’š

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        but stil a bug

                                        Absolutly not!
                                        Just a disfunction (false code) of the bench! ๐Ÿ˜‰
                                        A bug inside the bench yes!

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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