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  • M Offline
    maso
    last edited by 27 Mar 2012, 09:19

    Hello
    Think I found a bug.
    When i copy an instance of a component and scale it, SU makes it unique. Fredo scale works fine though. Seems the problem is in the component size, it handles it fine without the car..
    Any hints?
    Thanks
    Massich


    component unique car.skp

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    • P Offline
      pilou
      last edited by 27 Mar 2012, 09:41

      @unknownuser said:

      When i copy an instance of a component and scale it, SU makes it unique.

      Normal! ๐Ÿค“
      But it's just the transformation who is "unique" ! Component itself stay an instance! ๐Ÿค“
      You must edit it ! ๐Ÿ˜Ž
      Edit Component/ Select all and Scale it! ๐Ÿ˜‰

      Frenchy Pilou
      Is beautiful that please without concept!
      My Little site :)

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      • M Offline
        maso
        last edited by 27 Mar 2012, 10:52

        @unknownuser said:

        But it's just the transformation who is "unique" ! Component itself stay an instance! ๐Ÿค“
        You must edit it !
        Edit Component/ Select all and Scale it! ๐Ÿ˜‰

        To make myself clear I need the component mirrored.. Only the copied instance. (It mirrors with mistakes, bench gets higher) and the component is transformed into a new one. (component#2 instead of component#18 with fredoscale it stays component#18)
        M.


        component unique car mirred.skp

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        • T Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by 27 Mar 2012, 11:08

          There is something wrong with your SUp7 [>>>reinstall] OR you have some flaky 3rd-party script loading that messes with the native Scale class methods.
          What happens if there are no scripts loaded ???

          I can open your SKP in v8 OR v7 and make a copy of the component [Move+Ctrl] and then Scale it using -1 [to hand it], and it's fine.
          It reports 2 instances in Entity Info etc as expected.
          If I copy/paste it then Scale it or use the Mirror tool I get the same result.
          Scaling an instance does [should] NOT make it unique...

          It's not a 'known bug' - I'm afraid it's YOU ! ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

          TIG

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          • M Offline
            maso
            last edited by 27 Mar 2012, 11:27

            @tig said:

            There is something wrong with your SUp7

            Thanks guys for quick replys.
            The problem happend on my bosses SU, where he uses almost none scripts. Just skindigo and supodium v2. He runs v. 7.1.6860 pro.
            so its not just me ๐Ÿ˜„
            Could you please help with how to run SU without scripts?
            TU
            M.

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            • M Offline
              maso
              last edited by 27 Mar 2012, 11:31

              @unknownuser said:

              Maybe it's that who make something wrong in the Scale function ?

              Doesnt seem like that. Scales just fine with SUscale when i delete the car..(and a big 3D tree wich was there originaly)

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              • P Offline
                pilou
                last edited by 27 Mar 2012, 11:32

                OK I see!
                Your Bench is a "dynamic component"!
                Maybe it's that who make something wrong in the Scale function ?

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                • T Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by 27 Mar 2012, 11:36

                  I get no issues with the car/tree or anything else.
                  I tested it on that very v7 version [Vista] - it Scaled OK with any 'uniqueness' issues.
                  To disable scripts simply rename the Sketchup../Plugins folder temporarily as 'Disabled', make a new empty 'Plugins' folder.
                  Try and see if it works now.
                  If so you know that something in Plugins is messing with your 'Copy >>> Scale -1' etc...
                  If not then a reinstall might help... ๐Ÿ˜•
                  If you think it's a script, then to find the culprit-script move all of the subfolders back into Plugins and move half of the scripts back in too. If the problem recurs then the issue is with one of the scripts you just moved in. If not it's with one of the scripts left in 'Disabled', move half again... this way you can narrow it down and find the problem file[s]...
                  Let us know what it is ! ๐Ÿ˜’

                  TIG

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                  • P Offline
                    pilou
                    last edited by 27 Mar 2012, 11:37

                    So Explode it / make a normal component and all will works fine!
                    ๐Ÿ˜Ž
                    big bench.jpg

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                    • M Offline
                      maso
                      last edited by 27 Mar 2012, 11:37

                      @unknownuser said:

                      So Explode it / make a normal component and all will works fine!
                      ๐Ÿ˜Ž

                      sure i've tried that in a first place. exploding and recreating doesnt work as well

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                      • M Offline
                        maso
                        last edited by 27 Mar 2012, 11:49

                        @tig said:

                        I get no issues with the car/tree or anything else.

                        No change with plugins disabled.
                        I also noticed that the component with a car changed got uniqued pls find attached.


                        move.jpg

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                          maso
                          last edited by 27 Mar 2012, 11:54

                          @unknownuser said:

                          I have the same problem as described first post when I scale the original with the bench as Dynamic Component
                          But no Problem when I transform the bench in Normal Component
                          Scaling seems normal as shown on my image above โ“
                          Of course the car is scaling also because I don't move it before the tool scale ๐Ÿ˜„

                          OH! you are right! I thought it worked before when i tried without a car, but now a see its the bench! Thaaanks ๐ŸŽ‰ what a drama ๐Ÿ˜„

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                            pilou
                            last edited by 27 Mar 2012, 11:58

                            I have the same problem as described first post when I scale the original with the bench as Dynamic Component
                            (even without copy move)
                            But no Problem when I transform the bench in Normal Component
                            Scaling seems normal as shown on my image above โ“
                            Of course the car is scaling also because I don't move it before the tool scale ๐Ÿ˜„

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                              maso
                              last edited by 27 Mar 2012, 12:00

                              @maso said:

                              @unknownuser said:

                              I have the same problem as described first post when I scale the original with the bench as Dynamic Component
                              But no Problem when I transform the bench in Normal Component
                              Scaling seems normal as shown on my image above โ“
                              Of course the car is scaling also because I don't move it before the tool scale ๐Ÿ˜„

                              OH! you are right! I thought it worked before when i tried without a car, but now a see its the bench! Thaaanks ๐ŸŽ‰ what a drama ๐Ÿ˜„

                              Okey, bug found. Its the bench. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ such a simple component ?!

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                              • M Offline
                                maso
                                last edited by 27 Mar 2012, 12:04

                                @unknownuser said:

                                :enlight:

                                It's not a simple Component, it's a Dynamic Component!
                                Sure action of Dynamic Component depends of WHO and HOW it was made! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                My boss just confessed ๐Ÿ˜„
                                He "redesigned" the standard scalable dynamic bench from the internet.. didnt really work ๐Ÿ˜„

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                                  pilou
                                  last edited by 27 Mar 2012, 12:07

                                  โ˜€

                                  It's not a simple Component, it's a Dynamic Component!
                                  Sure action of Dynamic Component depends of WHO and HOW it was made! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                  So in this case seems it was not good coded!
                                  It makes a false axis Scales & Move during just a 2D Scale! ๐Ÿ˜’

                                  Frenchy Pilou
                                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                  My Little site :)

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                                  • M Offline
                                    maso
                                    last edited by 27 Mar 2012, 12:08

                                    Thank You both guys for your help.
                                    Issue solved, still it seems to be a bug.
                                    Quite complicated to achieve, but stil a bug ๐Ÿ˜„
                                    Thanks again
                                    M.

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                                      pilou
                                      last edited by 27 Mar 2012, 12:10

                                      The Boss has always right! ๐Ÿ˜„
                                      But modify a Dynamic Component is some dangerous without some experience of that! ๐Ÿ’š

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      but stil a bug

                                      Absolutly not!
                                      Just a disfunction (false code) of the bench! ๐Ÿ˜‰
                                      A bug inside the bench yes!

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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