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    • Dave RD Offline
      Dave R
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      MArk down the date that Massimo praised your abilities. πŸ˜‰

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      • boofredlayB Offline
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        Well it is 2012 and the world is about to end so anything is possible.

        Dave I look forward to seeing your rendering progress.

        http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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        • Dave RD Offline
          Dave R
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          Thanks Eric,

          I've got one cooking now after adding some tiny bevels to the edges and modifying the materials a bit. We'll see what it looks like. My sketchy looking drawings don't take anywhere near this much time to create even including making the line style form scratch.

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          • Dave RD Offline
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            http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7146/6838558269_992f83ea6b_z.jpg

            Still playing with it.

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            • Rich O BrienR Offline
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              That's massively better. Especially the shadows.

              I think sitting on a plain diffuse 75% grey would make you look at the box more.

              What did you change?

              Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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              • Dave RD Offline
                Dave R
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                Thanks Rich.

                I put a very tiny bevel on all the edges that would get eased if it was real. The bevel is 1/64" but then the box is only 4" long. I edited the face grain material to give it a slightly golden cast as if it had been varnished. I also made a separate end grain material that I darkened a bit more than the face grain since the end grain would absorb more of the finish.

                The box was moved up very slightly so it is actually floating off the ground plane. I exchanged the sun for two spot lights, gave the face grain material a bit of shininess and did the same for the woven background.

                You may be right about the flat gray background instead. There's another version cooking. That one only had the lights moved a little bit.

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                • Dave RD Offline
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                  http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7018/6838817219_8cccf47892_z.jpg

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                  • massimoM Offline
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                    The box looks better. πŸ‘ However you almost completely lost the shadows. In the very first image you posted they were too strong. Maybe you could try as a start with this studio setup. You can choose from two setups: with direct mesh emitters (you can apply for example ies lights to them) or with pointlights+umbrellas.
                    Or also put the box in a very simple studio screen and use one of these HDRi as lighting. πŸ˜„

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                    • irwanwrI Offline
                      irwanwr
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                      πŸ‘
                      also thanks to massimo, notareal, and others for those links to note.

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                      • Dave RD Offline
                        Dave R
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                        Thanks Massimo. I'll give that a try.

                        I went to bed while this was rendering. It was finished this morning so I'm posting it. I don't mind so much that the shadows are gone from the first one.


                        http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7018/6840658965_d029c70c9a_z.jpg

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                        • irwanwrI Offline
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                          πŸ‘ nicely done

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                          • bazB Offline
                            baz
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                            Looks good Dave, tho' I agree about the background.
                            Small tip, save the model to another file just for rendering. As I found out the hard way, once you start beveling, rounding corners etc. it's a pain to work with if you need to make alterations.
                            Baz

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                            • Dave RD Offline
                              Dave R
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                              Thanks irwanwr and Barry.

                              Barry, you make a good point. I do have several copies of this one already because I've been using it as a training tool for some instruction I'm doing. I can draw this box now in about 6 minutes including the dovetails all around. Usually I don't care about the bevels and I don't expect to be doing a lot of this rendering business. πŸ˜‰

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                              • irwanwrI Offline
                                irwanwr
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                                btw, what rendering method did you use there, Dave?
                                i like the soft shadow.

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                                • Dave RD Offline
                                  Dave R
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                                  This last one was done in KT using preset #8. there are two spotlights both set to cast soft shadows. The radius of the light more to the front is set at 0.15 and the other light is set to 0.10.


                                  KT F Box.png

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                                  • irwanwrI Offline
                                    irwanwr
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                                    πŸ‘
                                    Thank you, Dave. I've never thought of using either soft shadows or lights.
                                    Mostly using the preliminary custom preset for quick setting and rendering.

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                                    • Dave RD Offline
                                      Dave R
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                                      Having been a professional photographer in a former life, I tend to think in terms of studio lighting for renders so Massimo's suggestions make a lot of sense to me. Still, I much prefer the sketchy stuff I normally do.

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                                        Model the tabletop surface instead of using a bump map. Also light from the top left rear (shadow cast forward) and set up a reflector off camera to bounce light back into the resulting dark front of the box.

                                        Trust me. πŸ˜„

                                        http://www.azcreative.com

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                                        • boofredlayB Offline
                                          boofredlay
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                                          Here is a quick go with Photoshop and Dave's rendering. Posted with his permission of course.


                                          DaveR_Box_Pshop.jpg

                                          http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                                          • R Offline
                                            Roger
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                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            Here is a quick go with Photoshop and Dave's rendering. Posted with his permission of course.

                                            That is pretty close to what I had in mind. Nice word to the Dave/Eric team.

                                            http://www.azcreative.com

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