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    • utilerU 離線
      utiler
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      dex, when I open SU after loading SketchUpBIM 1.5 the units are still imperial..... how do I change them to metric?

      purpose/expression/purpose/....

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      • D 離線
        d_e_x
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        @utiler said:

        dex, when I open SU after loading SketchUpBIM 1.5 the units are still imperial..... how do I change them to metric?

        Utiler, You can enter units along with input values. The default values are the same as those selected on the SketchUp File Template.

        In the below example, the units are in 'feet'. However, the same input can be done as "5@200mm" or "5@0.2m" or "5@20cm" if you need to use metric units.

        SketchUpBIM_Units_01.png

        If the entire file should use metric, then simply, use the Metric Template while creating the SketchUp file, and SketchUpBIM will automatically switch all its input values to metric units.

        SketchUpBIM_Units_02.png

        Also watch the Advanced Tutorial at http://www.sketchupbim.com/tutorials.html to understand the implementation and usage of Units.

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        • PixeroP 離線
          Pixero
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          I've found that if I click on "layer 0", even when I'm not using the tools, the view is set to isometric.
          Not good. 😞

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          • D 離線
            d_e_x
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            @pixero said:

            I've found that if I click on "layer 0", even when I'm not using the tools, the view is set to isometric.
            Not good. 😞

            pixero, another user has already pointed this out. We will modify the behavior of SketchUpBIM to preserve the original settings of SketchUp. If the user has set his view style to "perspective", it shall be preserved while switching layers that contain SketchUpBIM elements.

            Dex

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            • utilerU 離線
              utiler
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              Thanks dex, I thought if units were set in the default file the input values should 'default to those units rather than having to add the units string each time... is this possible for future releases?

              great work by the way!!

              purpose/expression/purpose/....

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              • D 離線
                d_e_x
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                @utiler said:

                Thanks dex, I thought if units were set in the default file the input values should 'default to those units rather than having to add the units string each time... is this possible for future releases?

                great work by the way!!

                If no units are entered on the Input Dialog boxes, then SketchUpBIM will default to the pre-set units. Hence, it is not required to explicitly enter units if you want to use the same units as those set on the file template.

                thanks Andrew for all your good words! It provides our team with a lot of encouragement 😄

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                • fionmacoolF 離線
                  fionmacool
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                  I love the idea of this plugin- It's really great and I have been waiting for someone to produce something like this for a long time. I know I should be learning how to program SketchUp myself but I haven't had the time.

                  I recommend uninstalling the previous version of sketchupbim before installing. I had problems first time I installed the new v1.5

                  This is looking really good!

                  I wonder if anyone had thoughts about the comparison between this plugin and Revit. Here is a document I created ages ago on the topic. http://bit.ly/c6BWnE

                  Probably needs some updating now. Your suggestions are most welcome.

                  Zere are still some architectes zat do not know ow to use ze SketchUp..... Zis is unbelievable....

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                  • D 離線
                    d_e_x
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                    Advanced Tutorial for SketchUpBIM 1.5.

                    The implementation and usage of UNITS in SketchUpBIM is discussed in the first 3 minutes of the Tutorial.

                    [flash=853,480:uelpzvub]http://www.youtube.com/v/5IKpZFamkps[/flash:uelpzvub]

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                    • S 離線
                      SUFractal
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                      ATTENTION!!!!!!!

                      I've discovered a problem with this plugin/tool.

                      It conflicts with TIG's 'SectionCutFace' and Chuck Vali's Instant Roof plugins. And perhaps others as well, that I am not aware of.

                      Anyone else discovering any issues with it?

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                      • thomthomT 離線
                        thomthom
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                        @sufractal said:

                        ATTENTION!!!!!!!

                        I've discovered a problem with this plugin/tool.

                        It conflicts with TIG's 'SectionCutFace' and Chuck Vali's Instant Roof plugins. And perhaps others as well, that I am not aware of.

                        Anyone else discovering any issues with it?

                        Can you describe what the conflict is? When reporting problems it is more useful the more information you give.

                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                          SUFractal
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                          @thomthom said:

                          @sufractal said:

                          ATTENTION!!!!!!!

                          I've discovered a problem with this plugin/tool.

                          It conflicts with TIG's 'SectionCutFace' and Chuck Vali's Instant Roof plugins. And perhaps others as well, that I am not aware of.

                          Anyone else discovering any issues with it?

                          Can you describe what the conflict is? When reporting problems it is more useful the more information you give.

                          Sorry Thomthom ... I should know better.

                          When operating either tool (Instant Roof or SCF) with SU-BIM installed in plugins folder, SU immediately crashes. SU-BIM doesn't seem to be affected by anything else that I can see.

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                          • TIGT 離線
                            TIG Moderator
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                            [Without any evidence!]
                            I suspect that it somehow, ill-advisedly, messes with the base class/methods - e.g. group.copy and similar...

                            The tool's author might confirm...
                            😒

                            TIG

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                            • thomthomT 離線
                              thomthom
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                              And without SketchUpBIM installed everything works fine?

                              @tig said:

                              I suspect that it somehow, ill-advisedly, messes with the base class/methods - e.g. group.copy and similar...

                              Either that, or it could be misbehaving observers - such as modifying the model in observer events.

                              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              • TIGT 離線
                                TIG Moderator
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                                Good point TT 💭
                                If it's 'watching' for say a 'group creation' - as SectionCutFace does - then it might cause it to trip up as it 'intervenes'...

                                TIG

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                                • S 離線
                                  SUFractal
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                                  @thomthom said:

                                  And without SketchUpBIM installed everything works fine?

                                  @tig said:

                                  I suspect that it somehow, ill-advisedly, messes with the base class/methods - e.g. group.copy and similar...

                                  Either that, or it could be misbehaving observers - such as modifying the model in observer events.

                                  Yes Thomthom ... w/o SU-BIM there do not appear to be any issues with other plugins or SU at all (from what I've experienced).

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                                  • D 離線
                                    d_e_x
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                                    Thanks for pointing this out. I'll look into the appended suggestions - and get this fixed asap.

                                    @tig said:

                                    I suspect that it somehow, ill-advisedly, messes with the base class/methods - e.g. group.copy and similar...

                                    @thomthom said:

                                    Either that, or it could be misbehaving observers - such as modifying the model in observer events.

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                                    • D 離線
                                      d_e_x
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                                      SketchUpBIM, Instant Roof, and SectionCutFace put together - are working fine. I did not notice any crashes or any other issues. I have tested this on Windows 7, 64 Bits. Next, I am going to try this on the Mac. At this point, NO ISSUES HAVE BEEN FOUND.

                                      In the attached screen-shot, SketchUpBIM elements (columns, walls etc.) are working fine with a "Barn Gambrel" roof from Chuck Vali's Instant Roof and a cyan colored section cut from TIG's 'SectionCutFace'.

                                      SBIM_SectionCut_InstantRoof.png

                                      TIG, Thomthom, could you confirm if there are any problems?

                                      Also, the SketchUpBIM plugin has been tested with SuPodium, and Ledas Driving Dimensions, and no issues have been found. If there is anything, then it might be platform specific; or is related to other softwares and/or privileges on some specific computers. (random hunch!)

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                                      • thomthomT 離線
                                        thomthom
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                                        @d_e_x said:

                                        TIG, Thomthom, could you confirm if there are any problems?

                                        I haven't used SketchUpBIM myself yet. Just noticed the query from the user when I moderated the post.

                                        Does it extend of modify the core classes that comes with SketchUp? (I've written some notes on why this is unsafe: http://www.thomthom.net/thoughts/2012/01/golden-rules-of-sketchup-plugin-development/ )

                                        Does it make use of Observers? (I've tried to map out bugs and quirks with observers here: http://www.thomthom.net/software/sketchup/observers/)
                                        If it does make use of observers, what does it do? Does it just monitor, or does it attempt to make changes to the model? The Google developers has mentioned that modifying the model on observer events can very likely cause unforeseen issues.

                                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                          SUFractal
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                                          @d_e_x said:

                                          SketchUpBIM, Instant Roof, and SectionCutFace put together - are working fine. I did not notice any crashes or any other issues. I have tested this on Windows 7, 64 Bits. Next, I am going to try this on the Mac. At this point, NO ISSUES HAVE BEEN FOUND.

                                          In the attached screen-shot, SketchUpBIM elements (columns, walls etc.) are working fine with a "Barn Gambrel" roof from Chuck Vali's Instant Roof and a cyan colored section cut from TIG's 'SectionCutFace'.

                                          [attachment=0:r3r61rfx]<!-- ia0 -->SBIM_SectionCut_InstantRoof.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:r3r61rfx]

                                          TIG, Thomthom, could you confirm if there are any problems?

                                          Also, the SketchUpBIM plugin has been tested with SuPodium, and Ledas Driving Dimensions, and no issues have been found. If there is anything, then it might be platform specific; or is related to other softwares and/or privileges on some specific computers. (random hunch!)

                                          d_e_x:

                                          TIG and TT suggested that I try upgrading to a newer version of SU (Version 8.0.11751) ... which I have done. That seems to solve the problem with the other plugins. 😄

                                          I'm embarrassed that I didn't think to check that first.

                                          Keep up the good work ... looking forward to using your great tool again.

                                          Thanks!

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                                            pjdorger
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                                            wow looks awesome

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