[Plugin] SketchUpBIM: Building Modeling made easy!

SUFractal

@sufractal said:

ATTENTION!!!!!!!

I've discovered a problem with this plugin/tool.

It conflicts with TIG's 'SectionCutFace' and Chuck Vali's Instant Roof plugins. And perhaps others as well, that I am not aware of.

Anyone else discovering any issues with it?

Can you describe what the conflict is? When reporting problems it is more useful the more information you give.

Sorry Thomthom ... I should know better.

When operating either tool (Instant Roof or SCF) with SU-BIM installed in plugins folder, SU immediately crashes. SU-BIM doesn't seem to be affected by anything else that I can see.

TIG

[Without any evidence!]
I suspect that it somehow, ill-advisedly, messes with the base class/methods - e.g. group.copy and similar...

The tool's author might confirm...

thomthom

And without SketchUpBIM installed everything works fine?

@tig said:

I suspect that it somehow, ill-advisedly, messes with the base class/methods - e.g. group.copy and similar...

Either that, or it could be misbehaving observers - such as modifying the model in observer events.

TIG

Good point TT
If it's 'watching' for say a 'group creation' - as SectionCutFace does - then it might cause it to trip up as it 'intervenes'...

SUFractal

@thomthom said:

And without SketchUpBIM installed everything works fine?

@tig said:

I suspect that it somehow, ill-advisedly, messes with the base class/methods - e.g. group.copy and similar...

Either that, or it could be misbehaving observers - such as modifying the model in observer events.

Yes Thomthom ... w/o SU-BIM there do not appear to be any issues with other plugins or SU at all (from what I've experienced).

d_e_x

Thanks for pointing this out. I'll look into the appended suggestions - and get this fixed asap.

@tig said:

I suspect that it somehow, ill-advisedly, messes with the base class/methods - e.g. group.copy and similar...

@thomthom said:

Either that, or it could be misbehaving observers - such as modifying the model in observer events.

d_e_x

SketchUpBIM, Instant Roof, and SectionCutFace put together - are working fine. I did not notice any crashes or any other issues. I have tested this on Windows 7, 64 Bits. Next, I am going to try this on the Mac. At this point, NO ISSUES HAVE BEEN FOUND.

In the attached screen-shot, SketchUpBIM elements (columns, walls etc.) are working fine with a "Barn Gambrel" roof from Chuck Vali's Instant Roof and a cyan colored section cut from TIG's 'SectionCutFace'.

TIG, Thomthom, could you confirm if there are any problems?

Also, the SketchUpBIM plugin has been tested with SuPodium, and Ledas Driving Dimensions, and no issues have been found. If there is anything, then it might be platform specific; or is related to other softwares and/or privileges on some specific computers. (random hunch!)

thomthom

@d_e_x said:

TIG, Thomthom, could you confirm if there are any problems?

I haven't used SketchUpBIM myself yet. Just noticed the query from the user when I moderated the post.

Does it extend of modify the core classes that comes with SketchUp? (I've written some notes on why this is unsafe: http://www.thomthom.net/thoughts/2012/01/golden-rules-of-sketchup-plugin-development/ )

Does it make use of Observers? (I've tried to map out bugs and quirks with observers here: http://www.thomthom.net/software/sketchup/observers/)
If it does make use of observers, what does it do? Does it just monitor, or does it attempt to make changes to the model? The Google developers has mentioned that modifying the model on observer events can very likely cause unforeseen issues.

SUFractal

@d_e_x said:

SketchUpBIM, Instant Roof, and SectionCutFace put together - are working fine. I did not notice any crashes or any other issues. I have tested this on Windows 7, 64 Bits. Next, I am going to try this on the Mac. At this point, NO ISSUES HAVE BEEN FOUND.

In the attached screen-shot, SketchUpBIM elements (columns, walls etc.) are working fine with a "Barn Gambrel" roof from Chuck Vali's Instant Roof and a cyan colored section cut from TIG's 'SectionCutFace'.

[attachment=0:r3r61rfx]SBIM_SectionCut_InstantRoof.png[/attachment:r3r61rfx]

TIG, Thomthom, could you confirm if there are any problems?

Also, the SketchUpBIM plugin has been tested with SuPodium, and Ledas Driving Dimensions, and no issues have been found. If there is anything, then it might be platform specific; or is related to other softwares and/or privileges on some specific computers. (random hunch!)

d_e_x:

TIG and TT suggested that I try upgrading to a newer version of SU (Version 8.0.11751) ... which I have done. That seems to solve the problem with the other plugins.

I'm embarrassed that I didn't think to check that first.

Keep up the good work ... looking forward to using your great tool again.

Thanks!

pjdorger

wow looks awesome

d_e_x

Hi All,

The appended blog talks about the common support issues related to the installation and first-use of SketchUpBIM.

http://sketchupbim.blogspot.in/

Hope it helps the community
Dex

brookefox

Thank you, d_e_x, for sharing this set of integrated tools.

Any plans for wall intersection corner clean-up?

eccowboy

I tried downloading SUBim, but when I was done the plugin wasn't in my SU toolbar,
I'm working in pro7, does this plugin only work with Pro8.

Thanks....

brookefox

You checked the install and can verify that the plug and the folder are in the plug directory?

TIG

Assuming you do have the files/subfolder+files properly in Plugins [and not some 'compatibility files' location because you don't have 'full' properties>security-permissions to the destination folder]...
then have you checked to see if it's an Extension that needs a one time activation from Menu > Window > Preferences > Extensions, and if so perhaps a one time activation of its Toolbar from Menu > View > Toolbars ?
If none of this works... have you tried using the tool's own web site? where they have a support page and tutorial pages, or even try a PM to the author here...

d_e_x

@eccowboy said:

I tried downloading SUBim, but when I was done the plugin wasn't in my SU toolbar,
I'm working in pro7, does this plugin only work with Pro8.

Thanks....

Eccowboy,

SketchUpBIM works with SketchUp 7 and 8, both Free and Pro Versions.

Please browse to "C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Google SketchUp 7\Plugins"
on your computer, and see if the following files exist inside this folder: (i) SketchUpBIM.rbs file (ii) SketchUpBIM sub-folder. If not, then please re-install the software using the installation file. If you still cannot see the SketchUpBIM files even after re-installation, then you might not have admin privileges to install softwares into your "Program Files" folder or you might have multiple versions of SketchUp installed on your computer. If this is the case, please send me an email at support@sketchupbim.com. I can send you a link to the zip package of the plug-in (otherwise discouraged to facilitate installation upgrades). The zip package can be easily un-zipped, and the files can be copied to the SketchUp plug-ins folder.

d_e_x

@brookefox said:

Thank you, d_e_x, for sharing this set of integrated tools.
Any plans for wall intersection corner clean-up?

Hi Brookefox,

clean-up of wall corners, and other intersections has been requested by a number of users. it's on our list of things-to-do. Hopefully, we'll do so in one our future releases. I will notify as and when it is added to SketchUpBIM.

Dex

etong

Hi,

Tried to make this plug-in work but I really can't.
I already reinstalled my SUPro 8.0.3117 to scratch, installed only SUBIM as plugin but still no luck.
Running in Win7 64bit.
I have SketchUpBIM.rbs and subfolder SketchUpBIM in my Plug-in Folder.
Also did Preferences/Extensions but didn't find any SketchUpBIM there... I only have: Ruby Script Examples, Ocean Modeling, Utilities Tools, Dynamic Components, Sandbox Tools, Solar North Toolbar, Photo Textures as choices.
I just dunno what else to do now.

thomthom

@etong said:

SUPro 8.0.3117

I recommend you update to the latest service release of SU8 - got lots of bug fixes.

As for the plugin, can you post a screenshot of your plugin folder?

etong

@thomthom said:

@etong said:

SUPro 8.0.3117

I recommend you update to the latest service release of SU8 - got lots of bug fixes.

As for the plugin, can you post a screenshot of your plugin folder?

Ok, already downloaded the latest SU. Unfortunately still the same issue.

Here's my Screenshot of my SU8 Plugins Folder

Folders:

Examples
Ocean
SketchUpBIM
SU_Podium_V2
Utilities

Ruby Scripts:

examples.rb
ocean_extension.rb
SketchUpBIM.rbs
SU_Podium_Browser.rbs
SU_Podium_V2.rbs
SU_Podium_V2_Render_All.rbs
utilities.rb

Didn't made a screenshot as there's only a few of ruby plug-ins as I am trying to eliminate the probable rb in conflict with SUBIM.

Thanks!