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    [Plugin] ArcByTools v1.2 20120412

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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      Here's v1.1 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=365402#p365402
      Hopefully it avoids this rare group-name formating issue...

      TIG

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      • G Offline
        gnlmrc60b22f205v
        last edited by

        Now it works!

        In the meantime I tried the plugin with a completely clean Skechup (except sketchup.rb of course) but I got the same result. Most likely the problem is the Italian version of SketchUp 8.0.4811.

        Thanks a lot.

        Marco.

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        • ElibjrE Offline
          Elibjr
          last edited by

          Thank you TIG. I have always wanted this tool.

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          • jeff hammondJ Offline
            jeff hammond
            last edited by

            i have an idea for an addition to this plugin.. i'm not sure how you would call it.. maybe arc by height and sector length?

            one thing that is very time consuming (and actually pretty hard) to accomplish when drawing a sketchup arc is if your model calls for a certain arc height along with a certain arc length per segment..

            the basic problem is that you can only, somewhat easily, get one of those two..

            if your arc is the proper height then you won't be able to control the sector length because the arc will evenly divide into x amount of segments throughout it's entire length.

            if you draw an arc with the proper sector length, then cut it off at the required height, the end point will be wrong there (as you create an endpoint, which should happen at a radial length, on a random point somewhere along the segment)..

            i have a dc that i use for doing this now, and while it's my go to for this, it can be cumbersome when i just want an arc.. (the dc creates a solid component as opposed to just a curve so i have to go in and copy/paste/delete/weld/etc.)

            here's that DC:

            DC_Template_cutter.skp

            if you try the DC and play around with the component options, you'll see how the top sector is a different size/angle than the rest of the pie pieces.. it's adjusting to make the final endpoint to be the correct distance from the centerpoint and it's length varies depending on what happens with all the other sectors..
            [EDIT- oh, but that dc is designed to stop an arc at 90º… if the desired height is greater than the radius then the difference will be drawn as a vertical line.. i think if you were to do the ruby, it shouldn't work like that.. it should keep going past 90 until a semicircle has formed (after which, i guess there would be an error as you couldn't create an arc with a height greater than 2x radius?]

            i know the maths for it.. i don't know the ruby though πŸ’š
            so, here's one for a rainy day.. (and i hear it rains a lot over there πŸ˜„ )

            dotdotdot

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              I understand about setting the segment length...
              BUT what variables do you want to 'control'?
              e.g.

              Radius:
              Segment Length:
              Number of Segments:
              [then the Chord Length varies]

              or

              Chord Length:
              Segment Length:
              Number of Segments:
              [then the Radius varies]

              or

              Chord Offset from Center:
              Segment Length:
              Number of Segments:
              [then the Radius and Chord Length varies]

              OR perhaps all possibilities would be good?


              circle-lable.jpg

              TIG

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              • EarthMoverE Offline
                EarthMover
                last edited by

                Nice work TIG! This is not relevant to this plugin perhaps, but I've always been wondering if there were a way to make an arc tool that would draw arcs segmented by distance increments solely. If it were set to say, 6" a 10 linear foot arc would have 20 segments and a 20 LF arc would have 40 segments and so on. Would be great for rationing the segmentation as relative to the size of the arc. Just wondering.

                3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                Content Creator at Skapeup

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                • jeff hammondJ Offline
                  jeff hammond
                  last edited by

                  @tig said:

                  I understand about setting the segment length...
                  BUT what variables do you want to 'control'?

                  OR perhaps all possibilities would be good?

                  yes, i think having an entire 'arc calculator' would be really neat.. it might have to have a 'choose from list' type of interface instead of needing to remember all the variations (eg- tig.arcal) for the console?

                  the configuration i'm requesting is radius, height, sector length:

                  click pic -> bigger

                  it's that last segment (red) which is hard to get into proper position by any method i've tried so far..
                  thanks!

                  edit-- oh, and I realize sketchup won't see this as an 'arc' because the last segment is at a different angle... 'curve' would be fine

                  edit2-- also, the way I have the dc set up is if the last arc segment ends up being very short, it instead makes it longer than the other segments. (say the segment length is set to 20cm.. if the last on ends up being less than 2cm (or whatever) then the last segment would end up ~22cm.

                  you probably have a different idea on how that should be. it's just an attempt to avoids having two vertices very close together.

                  dotdotdot

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                  • TIGT Offline
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by

                    I'm on to it... I'll get back after the hols...

                    TIG

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Here's v1.2 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=365402#p365402
                      Draw submenu added.
                      Several Extra ArcBy... functions added...

                      'Radius+Length'
                      'SweptAngle+Length'
                      'Radius+ChordLength'
                      'Radius+SegmentLength'
                      'SweptAngle+SegmentLength'
                      'ChordX+ChordY+SegmentLength'

                      TIG

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                      • EarthMoverE Offline
                        EarthMover
                        last edited by

                        Great!! Went through all of them and they all seemed to be working fine on my end. It would great if the arcs could be placed interactively. If perhaps after entering the parameters the first click of the mouse would set them down and establish centerpoint, then dragging the mouse would rotate the arc around the centerpoint until the second click establishes position. Just a thought.

                        3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                        Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                        Content Creator at Skapeup

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                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
                          jeff hammond
                          last edited by

                          @tig said:

                          Here's v1.2 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=365402#p365402
                          Draw submenu added.
                          Several Extra ArcBy... functions added...

                          'Radius+Length'
                          'SweptAngle+Length'
                          'Radius+ChordLength'
                          'Radius+SegmentLength'
                          'SweptAngle+SegmentLength'
                          'ChordX+ChordY+SegmentLength'

                          Nice!
                          thanks!

                          i'll be trying this out today.

                          dotdotdot

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                          • pilouP Offline
                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            Near the perfection from the flaw! πŸ˜„

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                            • D Offline
                              drfarkos
                              last edited by

                              Sorry for stupid question, is your plugin meant to appear in Draw menu? I placed it in plugins folder inside Sketchup package, but do not see it.


                              Screen Shot 2013-02-06 at 7.07.01 PM.png

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                It does appear as a submenu under the Draw menu.
                                It is compatible with PC/MAC Free/Pro and versions 7/8...
                                So this looks like you have mis-installed it...

                                I see you are on a MAC.
                                What 'plugins' folder did you place the .rb file into ?
                                It should have been the
                                Macintosh HD/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/plugins
                                folder...
                                Also ensure you have FULL read/write permissions for that folder.
                                Perhaps you need to do a little reading on MAC-specific issues with plugin installation ?
                                Why not get Thomthom's 'Simple Plugins Installer' from the SCF Plugins Index linked in the menu above... Once this has been installed it adds a toolset to the Plugins menu that automatically installs tools in their four main forms as either an RB or RBS file & extracted file-sets from RBZ or ZIP archives... It ensure the correct files are put into the correct folders, avoiding any user generated issues...

                                TIG

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