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    [Plugin] K2WS_Tools a joint tool set for SU

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    • Dave RD Offline
      Dave R
      last edited by

      Keith, I'm seeing several problems. First, nothing happens when I choose the M-T tool. Perhaps it has to do with what TIG pointed out.

      The Loose Tenon tool works but I see the same problem I saw before. That is, when putting the mortise on the second end of the rail, the tool deformed the legs. See the attached image. The legs started out as square and all was fine with the leg on the left. Then I tried putting the mortise in the other end of the rail and the legs ended up as you see here. I could avoid that by making the legs unrelated components but that doesn't make a lot of sense.

      I wonder if you could just ask the user if they want the opposite end of the component to receive the same mortise and leave the second copy of the leg out of it altogether.

      I played with the dovetails quickly last night. It seems to work as expected.


      Loose Tenon Fail.png

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      • K Offline
        ktkoh
        last edited by

        Dave: Which tool do you use for the second end of the strecher?
        Here is a picture of the M&T Joint tool on the Right end which makes the tenon on the strecher and the mortise in the leg. The legs are the same component flipped so the other leg has the mortise. Next I use the Tenon tool and added a tenon to the left end of the strecher. This is a picture of the results.
        When using the loose tenon tool use the loose tenon Joint first then the mortise tool on the other end of the strecher and see if that gives the same results

        I removed all the test directories the file and dir from the plugins dir restarted my computer and downloaded the zip file and installed it on my computer. So far no problems with any programs. Is there a better way to test?

        Keith


        tenon test.jpg

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          The \ OR the / work on a PC - but a MAC wants a / 😒

          TIG

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          • Dave RD Offline
            Dave R
            last edited by

            Keith, I see what you're doing, I think. As I said, I used the Loose Tenon tool. It isn't logical to me to have to use different tools on opposite ends of the rail. It does work that way, though. I'm not real keen on having to hide the second leg before cutting that mortise in the end of the rail but I couldn't select the top edge of the rail without doing so.

            Also, while I've got you, could things like the dominoes and loose tenons be inserted as instances of the same component? You can see in the attached screen grab what happen in a cut list.
            KK Tools.png

            It's getting there, though.

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            • K Offline
              ktkoh
              last edited by

              Dave: I know you might need to hide the other component some times it seems to depend on what view you are looking at. You can do this without leaving the tool with a right click on the component and select hide the tool should stay active.

              At this time I don't know of a way to add copies of an component in a plugin. If I find a way to do this I can update later. That was why when I first sent you this it only added one component and it seemed you felt the joint was not complete.

              Mac users: I replaced the \ with / so the files should work on your systems.

              I did find that the M&T Joint tool still had require pointin to my dir so I also changed that. The zip file has been revised.

              Keith

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                alex_t
                last edited by

                Perfect plugin! Thank you!

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                • nanolinN Offline
                  nanolin
                  last edited by

                  Hello.
                  Anyone who uses this plugin could tell me how the board is at 45?
                  (Spline Joint)

                  Make a video for all functions would be best.

                  thanks

                  sorry my English is google translator

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                  • E Offline
                    eneu3
                    last edited by

                    Thanks for the really nice plug-in. I use it often. It saves me a lot of time.

                    I just downloaded Sketchup 2013 on both my Mac and PC. The tool still works just fine on the Mac, but I've run into an issue on the PC. When making a M/T joint, for instance, it won't save any edits to the parameters. And it won't do anything if I click "Save". If I click "Cancel", at least it lets me put in the mortise depth parameter, but then it won't do anything after that.

                    Like I said, no issue on the Mac!

                    Wonder!

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                    • Dave RD Offline
                      Dave R
                      last edited by

                      What version is your OS? Perhaps you need to set the permissions for the Plugins folder for SU2013 to allow access.

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                      • E Offline
                        emlyn80
                        last edited by

                        I can't get the tools to work. I see them in the tool menu but nothing happens. I am using the free version of SU2013, is that the problem?
                        Thanks

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                        • E Offline
                          eneu3
                          last edited by

                          Dave, you were correct about the permission issue.

                          After I posted my note, I did some digging around on the internet and saw that permissions can be a problem for some of the plugins. I could see the file where the preferences were being kept could not get updated.

                          I recently got a new laptop and it has Windows 7 installed. So I did some more web surfing and figured out how to get the permissions set properly. Basically, I had to make myself the owner of the CREATOR OWNER group.

                          All works well now!

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                          • Dave RD Offline
                            Dave R
                            last edited by

                            Ed, thanks for letting us know. Maybe that will help someone else down the road.

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                            • S Offline
                              studeag
                              last edited by

                              I've just upgrade to 2013 and it does not work, is there a solution, I've try a lot of things without success

                              Alain

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                Have you double-checked the security permissions issues and running as administrator etc, as outlined earlier?

                                Then...
                                Exactly 'how' is it not working ?

                                Not installing at all?
                                Not installing properly?
                                Not loading?
                                Not making menu entries?
                                No doing what you expect?
                                Generating error message dialogs?
                                Generating error messages in the Ruby Console?
                                Causing bugsplats/crashes?

                                From this quick list you can see that there is considerably more information you could offer us, which might then help us to help you... 😒

                                TIG

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                                • S Offline
                                  studeag
                                  last edited by

                                  I missed the security permission, lowered it and the program now works.

                                  Thank you very much

                                  Alain

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                                    ettengerg
                                    last edited by

                                    I am not able to get the tool to load in SU 2013 pro. The menu shows up but none of the joint tools work. I have tried to load thru window preferences renaming from zip to RBZ but still does not work? 😞 Any help would be appreciated.

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                                    • K Offline
                                      ktkoh
                                      last edited by

                                      I am using SU2013 and I downloaded the K2Tools file from the Ruby Depot and changed the .zip extension to .rbz and installed it as a extension from the preferences menu and the tools worked for me.

                                      As stated above file permissions are the first thing to check when a plugin fails to do anything.

                                      Keith

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                                        ettengerg
                                        last edited by

                                        I changed permissions on the folder and it now works. Thanks

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                                          eneu3
                                          last edited by

                                          Anyone having problems loading K2WS_Tools with Sketchup 2014? I keep getting an error message on my Mac:

                                          "Error Loading File loadK2WS_Tools.rb
                                          Error: #<LoadError: cannot load such file -- K2WS_Tools\K2_ToolsLoader.rb>

                                          I've downloaded the .zip file twice tonight from the SketchUCation site. No luck either time. I used the load extensions option from SketchUps preferences. It told me each time the load was successful, but when I re-open SketchUp I get the error message.

                                          Any help would be appreciated. This is a great set of tools!!

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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            @Ed

                                            The error is self-explanatory !
                                            The ZIP file contains a single .rb file and a subfolder of many helper files.
                                            The ZIP's contents need extracting into your Plugins folder [if you completed your User profile with OS & Version we might be able to advise better on where that is, and if security permissions need resetting to FULL etc - see earlier posts in this thread about that].
                                            The .rb file and the subfolder need to end up in the Plugins folder with the same relationship intact as they have in the ZIP itself.
                                            When the file loadK2WS_Tools.rb loads it does a require [like 'load'] on a file in the subfolder
                                            K2WS_Tools\K2_ToolsLoader.rb
                                            If it's missing you get the Error: #<LoadError: cannot load such file !
                                            If successful that will load other files etc until the toolset is assembled for use...
                                            But when it fails it stops, so nothing gets finished !

                                            If you have NOT got the subfolder with its contents intact inside Plugins then add it.
                                            If you have managed to put the contents of the subfolder directly into Plugins then you need to tidy things up and remove them.
                                            You ought to know that RBZ archives can be AutoInstalled using Preferences > Extensions > Install... button, you can add .rbz onto the end of a ZIP file's name to achieve this too as an RBZ is just a renamed ZIP file...
                                            SketchUcation Plugin Store toolset also has submenu item to AutoInstall Archives - RBZ & ZIP formats are supported.

                                            TIG

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