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      optimaforever
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      @lgrahm said:

      I'm wondering about the qft line tool. When I divide a quad using the line tool I guess the purpose is to create two new quads? But many times it creates double faces in at least one of the new quads. Those double faces are almost impossible to spot, but they create problems when subdividing or if you want to use the line tool again to divide the double faced quad. Is this a known problem?
      /Lars

      To avoid this, 2 solutions:

      1. delete the quad surface you want to split in 2 quads , and then with the qft line tool, draw the new line.
      2. use the qft connect edges tool to create 2 lines approximately and delete the one you don’t need.
        If none works the way you want, try solid inspector 2, and let it try to fix the double face.
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        thomthom
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        Version 0.14.0

        QuadFace Tools 0.14.0 Released

        New feature: Flip by Slope

        It will flip triangulated quads based on the topology flow to produce smoother shading of the surface.

        FlipBySlope.gif

        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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          thomthom
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          @optimaforever said:

          @rv1974 said:

          judging by RizomUV promo video, it works with tris like a beast. Doesn't it?

          Well, all the tools in RizomUV are based to work with quad-based geometry. with tris, the selection of edges, loops are basically a nightmare.

          And... if I can avoid going to 3dsMax, I'd prefer. I'd like to find a Sketchup-based workflow, otherwise I'd simply go the Max route from the beginning. 😄

          What do you mean by things not being "attached"? Geometry or UV?
          Is this when you use QFT to export?

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            thomthom
            last edited by

            Well, that GIF messed it up... in reality the flipped quads looks smooth.

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              optimaforever
              last edited by

              @thomthom said:

              @optimaforever said:

              @rv1974 said:

              judging by RizomUV promo video, it works with tris like a beast. Doesn't it?

              Well, all the tools in RizomUV are based to work with quad-based geometry. with tris, the selection of edges, loops are basically a nightmare.

              And... if I can avoid going to 3dsMax, I'd prefer. I'd like to find a Sketchup-based workflow, otherwise I'd simply go the Max route from the beginning. 😄

              What do you mean by things not being "attached"? Geometry or UV?
              Is this when you use QFT to export?

              Hi thom,
              basically it means qft exports all quads detached. So rizomUV can’t weld the geometry, which is pita.

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                thomthom
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                @optimaforever said:

                Hi thom,
                basically it means qft exports all quads detached. So rizomUV can’t weld the geometry, which is pita.

                Can you elaborate a bit more on what you mean by this?

                QFT writes OBJ files were the faces share vertices just as they do in SketchUp.

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                  optimaforever
                  last edited by

                  @thomthom said:

                  @optimaforever said:

                  Hi thom,
                  basically it means qft exports all quads detached. So rizomUV can’t weld the geometry, which is pita.

                  Can you elaborate a bit more on what you mean by this?
                  QFT writes OBJ files were the faces share vertices just as they do in SketchUp.

                  Well... My evaluation period for rizomUV expired so I can't try now but here's a screencapture of my qft exported mesh in RizomUV:
                  Basically the mesh is cut along the quads and the edges can't be welded. If I try to weld the geometry in 3dsmax, I lose the quads and get tris.


                  qft exported obj quad in rizomUV

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                    thomthom
                    last edited by

                    I'm not sure what I'm looking at there...
                    I sounds like this is an issue that relate particularly to rizomUV. Though I can't really tell exactly what is going on. But I can verify that QFT exports OBJs in such a manner that the faces share vertices.
                    If you could find out more what is happening on the rizomUV side then I could look into whether there are some tweaks that can be done on the side of QFT.

                    Perhaps, do you have a model where exported from another app into OBJ works fine for rizomUV - but doesn't work when exported from QFT?

                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                      optimaforever
                      last edited by

                      Exact. When I create a quad mesh in Max and import in RizomUV, there's no problem, I can cut and weld along desired edges, generating UV islands easily. When imported from QFT, each quad becomes a UV island and I can't weld back the geometry, which is very disappointing. I told the dev about this and he replied that he'll try to allow welding of pre-welded imported geometry but so far no good...
                      So my understanding is that there's something happening when exporting obj from QFT in su side.

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                        kaas
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                        Have you tried mapping the uvs using Wrapr? Exporting Wrapr-mapped objects from SU (as fbx) works as intended for me.

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                          optimaforever
                          last edited by

                          @kaas said:

                          Have you tried mapping the uvs using Wrapr? Exporting Wrapr-mapped objects from SU (as fbx) works as intended for me.

                          Well... I'm trying RizomUV because WrapR has too many limitations because of the SU 's own limitations. 😉
                          Did you check the RizomUV's presentation? you'll understand what I mean.

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                            thomthom
                            last edited by

                            So, is it the UVs that are the issue? I can understand if that might be the issue here - as SU doesn't try to make the UV-coordinates between vertices shared. (SU saves texture position per face instead of per vertex)

                            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              optimaforever
                              last edited by

                              @thomthom said:

                              So, is it the UVs that are the issue? I can understand if that might be the issue here - as SU doesn't try to make the UV-coordinates between vertices shared. (SU saves texture position per face instead of per vertex)

                              Indeed, this could be the issue... But I'm not techy enough to be able to confirm this unfortunately.

                              I should try forcing a UVmap in max on the qft mesh before importing in rizomUV.
                              Unfortunately my evaluation period expired 😞

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                                GoodWin_2203
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                                Good day! I have a problem with the make planar tool. when I select it, an unknown error is displayed. what could be the cause of this problem? SketchUp 2018

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                                  juju
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                                  @goodwin_2203 said:

                                  SketchUp 2018

                                  kindly consider updating your profile (refer to version 2016 there) whenever changing SketchUp version

                                  Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                                    zooen
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi,
                                    Could we hope for a French version of QuadFaceTools?
                                    There is one person who knows how to do that!

                                    I thank her in advance if she does it.

                                    Pourrait-on espérer une version française de QuadFaceTools?
                                    Il y a bien une personne qui sait faire cela !

                                    Je la remercie par avance si elle s'y adonne.

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                                      pilou
                                      last edited by

                                      Je ne crois pas que cela soit prévu pour recevoir l'intégration de langages mais...

                                      Il y a déjà la version en français du mode d'emploi! 😉

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                                        Oxer
                                        last edited by

                                        @zooen said:

                                        Hi,
                                        Could we hope for a French version of QuadFaceTools?
                                        There is one person who knows how to do that!

                                        I thank her in advance if she does it.

                                        Pourrait-on espérer une version française de QuadFaceTools?
                                        Il y a bien une personne qui sait faire cela !

                                        Je la remercie par avance si elle s'y adonne.

                                        I translated the plugin to Spanish language manually, you have to edit some strings in the files with a text editor ( I use BBEdit on Mac), I don't know if Thomas will give support to translations in near future.

                                        "The result is the end what is important is the process" by Oxer
                                        [http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/(http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/)]

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                                          zooen
                                          last edited by

                                          Thank you Oxer for your answer. I edited the file "core.rb" and translated with Notepade ++ for windows. I used google translation to translate so I will have to rework the texts in French.

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                                            AlegoZ
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                                            Hey there genious, im just wondering if u know why i cant get a "floating" menu i tried all i know and i can only use quad Tools from the main menu "Tools"

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