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    thomthom
    last edited by 8 Nov 2011, 07:12

    @jorge2011 said:

    Hi thom, This plugin generates a small error, you can fix that

    Ah, yea. There are bugs in this plugin. Hence the Alpha status of the version number. Though I've not had any time to work on it recently.

    Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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      robert111
      last edited by 10 Nov 2011, 12:36

      mr thomthom
      when i make group for this form , i and i use shell plugin , i have this stroange message


      hg11.JPG

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        thomthom
        last edited by 10 Nov 2011, 13:08

        That error message is not something I've put into Shell. I have no idea where it's coming from. Exactly what is the steps you do to produce that? (Can you also share the model along with the steps?)

        Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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          j_forrester
          last edited by 10 Nov 2011, 17:33

          Is it possible to shell but keep the return from the original geometry. I have tried with JPP too but seems to fall down when you try it with and opening with single extruded returns.

          Many thanks

          example.jpg

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            thomthom
            last edited by 10 Nov 2011, 18:11

            @j_forrester said:

            Is it possible to shell but keep the return from the original geometry.

            The generated geometry is created in a separate group - if that is what you mean..?

            Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              robert111
              last edited by 10 Nov 2011, 18:48

              i post my file and vedio for this bug


              bug00.rar


              shell bug.rar

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                jeff hammond
                last edited by 10 Nov 2011, 19:13

                @robert111 said:

                i post my file and vedio for this bug

                4.6MB for that.skp ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

                one word:

                PURGE ๐Ÿ˜„

                model info -> statistics -> purge unused.
                gets it down to around 150kb

                dotdotdot

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                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by 10 Nov 2011, 20:39

                  Your SKP will shrink to almost nothing IF you use Model Info > Purge Unused...
                  Then there's no need to zip/rar it and others will be more willing to look at it!
                  You don't appear to understand the idea of what makes a 'solid'.
                  An 8 sided box is a 'solid' - all edges have 2 faces - no more, no less.
                  Your group group has only 4 faces and several edges with only one face... so it's not a 'solid'.
                  Select two groups in turn and see what the Entity Info dialog says... make one as a 6 sided box [it says it's 'Solid'] and yours will not say it's 'solid' !
                  Therefore you can't do 'solid' operations on your group - it's not a 'solid'!

                  TIG

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                    thomthom
                    last edited by 10 Nov 2011, 21:37

                    ... I'm confused ... you're getting the error when trying to use Solids Tools?

                    Shell doesn't require solids...

                    Can you explain step by step what you are doing? (What you click on etc.) Also, what are you trying to accomplish.

                    Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      robert111
                      last edited by 10 Nov 2011, 23:46

                      thomthom

                      i make box and i deleted 02 faces and i have group it
                      and after i click in this box and i click after shell plugin
                      i have make video for my file can you see it
                      the file video is shell bug.rar

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                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by 11 Nov 2011, 09:07

                        Robert

                        As I tried to explain...
                        Shell and similar only only work if the group is a 'solid'.
                        An 6 sided box with no 'holes' is a 'solid'.
                        If you delete edges and/or faces then it is no longer a 'solid'.
                        The simple definition of a 'solid' group [or component] is that every edge in it has 2 faces attached to itself - but no more and no less...

                        TIG

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                          thomthom
                          last edited by 11 Nov 2011, 09:15

                          @tig said:

                          Shell and similar only only work if the group is a 'solid'.

                          No...

                          @thomthom said:

                          Shell doesn't require solids...

                          Usage.png

                          I will have a look at the sample video and see if I can understand what this whole is about.

                          Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            thomthom
                            last edited by 11 Nov 2011, 09:24

                            Ah!

                            Now I understand what this all is about!

                            You're trying to use SketchUp Solid Tools's "Outer Shell" command - instead of "Shell" which is this plugin. I can see how you got confused.


                            Menu.png

                            Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by 11 Nov 2011, 10:24

                              Aha! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
                              His video shows him trying to use [Outer] Shell on a non-solid object !
                              ๐Ÿ˜’

                              TIG

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                                robert111
                                last edited by 11 Nov 2011, 13:07

                                mr TIG, thanks you for your reponse but i dont know how to make any form to solid form with sketchup, can you make video tutorial for this plugin plzzz

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                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by 11 Nov 2011, 13:43

                                  @robert111 said:

                                  mr TIG, thanks you for your reponse but i dont know how to make any form to solid form with sketchup, can you make video tutorial for this plugin plzzz

                                  See the responses on the previous page since your last visit: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=39308&start=15#p365385

                                  Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by 11 Nov 2011, 13:45

                                    No.
                                    If you do not grasp the concept of what a solid is how would showing you help?
                                    Most simple forms made by Sketchup like boxes and cylinders are 'solids'.
                                    When you add them together they can make internal partitions etc which need removing before it's considered to be a solid.
                                    Try my SolidSolver tool which attempts to turn non-solid groups into solids...
                                    However, your example of a 4 sided box could never be made a solid unless you add more faces/edge etc...

                                    TIG

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                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by 11 Nov 2011, 13:51

                                      But he doesn't need a solid at all. He simply confused the "Outer Shell" menu item for my "Shell" menu item.

                                      Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        robert111
                                        last edited by 11 Nov 2011, 15:06

                                        thanks
                                        i confused the out shell with shell
                                        your plugin work perfect now

                                        thanks thomthom and thanks TIG too

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                                          thomthom
                                          last edited by 11 Nov 2011, 15:27

                                          ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

                                          Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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