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    [Plugin] Hatchfaces (v1.8 beta) UPDATED 15-Dec-2012

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    • D Offline
      DOD3R
      last edited by

      Hi Jorlan,
      I taught you would like to see work of krill2008
      https://sites.google.com/site/lssoft2011/home/lss_matrix
      this plug in is very help full and i think the closest thing to parametric modeling in sketch up.
      You probably know about this plugin, but just in case you missed it.

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      • jolranJ Offline
        jolran
        last edited by

        Hi.

        Thank you very much for the input. Much appreciated..

        I already have it in my pluginfolder πŸ˜„

        I have had a peek at Krill's code for ideas, but it is a VERY big script and it can take quite a bit of work(for me anyway) to get a grasp of what is going on.

        Actually in my case I'm avoiding peeking in others script to much since I noticed it
        distracts me a little. Unless I'm searching for a specific problemfix.
        I feel I have learnt more from experimenting, with my own code.

        Besides Krills script is copyrighted so, cant borrow anything from there anyway, but I do like to investigate his OpenGL preview a little, for ideas.

        Regarding Hatchfaces.

        I have code thats almost finished for tiling groups or components with intersecting on a single face. But recent developping has been all working on the node-GUI-editor.
        But I sence this plugin will require quite a lot of work so I might take a break from it in the near future and update Hatchfaces as promised.

        Best regards.

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          DOD3R
          last edited by

          Hi,
          glad to hear about your progress. I am looking forward to new hatchfaces.
          Also I am happy, that you know about krills work. But question is if he knows about yours. Maybe you can join forces or maybe he is working on some parametric modeling on his own.
          I would like to here what he has to tell about parametric grasshoper-like modeling in sketch up and i think You even more.

          kind regards
          D.

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          • jolranJ Offline
            jolran
            last edited by

            Hi.

            I'm afraid I don't have any collaboration in plan for that plugin.

            Helps, ideas and suggestions are always welcomed though, and I thank you for your
            input so far in this matter.

            Best regards /
            Joel.

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            • jemagnussenJ Offline
              jemagnussen
              last edited by

              Hi,

              I have probably missed it, but is there a possibility to make insulation hatches with this plugin?

              Brgds
              Jesper

              @jolran said:

              Hi.

              I'm afraid I don't have any collaboration in plan for that plugin.

              Helps, ideas and suggestions are always welcomed though, and I thank you for your
              input so far in this matter.

              Best regards /
              Joel.

              HP ZBook 15, Windows 10 64 bit
              Intel Core i7-6820HQ @ 2.70GHz
              32 GB Ram
              NVIDIA Quadro M2000M

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              • jolranJ Offline
                jolran
                last edited by

                @unknownuser said:

                I have probably missed it, but is there a possibility to make insulation hatches with this plugin?

                Not yet.

                But in my developpment version yes. Any pattern you'd like. Hopefully soon for you guys.
                Working on another plugin that has higher priority, but that might now change so standby on this.

                Performance will be much slower than LO on complicated patterns or small scaling=many patterns. That is one of the reasons this plugin has been a little on hold, in case I could figure out a way to solve that.

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                  teisele27
                  last edited by

                  I haven't read all the posts, so maybe this was already answered. I am running SU8 on a Mac. I put the plugin in my plugins folder a required, but can't get it to run. Suggestions? Thx

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                  • Dave RD Offline
                    Dave R
                    last edited by

                    Tom, did you just move the ZIP file to the Plugins folder or did you extract the contents of the ZIP file first and put them in the Plugins folder. Did you install the plugin using the Sketchucation Plugin Store? (That's the best method, anyway.) Do you have permissions set to Read AND Write for the Plugins folder? Did you restart SketchUp after installing the plugin?

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                    • jolranJ Offline
                      jolran
                      last edited by

                      Hi.

                      As Dave pointed out you will have to unzip the files to Plugin directory.
                      Let me know how it goes.

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                        ArCAD-UK
                        last edited by

                        Had a quick play. Wish I'd taken notice of this sooner!

                        Development suggestion.. Crosshatching allows the creation of some interesting parallel line patterns by applying the same angle with different spacing values, but there is no way to do a simple parallel offset using the same spacing. Could you add an offset parameter in the crosshatch window to allow the creation of one of the more common basic hatch patterns like this // // // ?

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                        • jolranJ Offline
                          jolran
                          last edited by

                          Hi!

                          @unknownuser said:

                          Could you add an offset parameter in the crosshatch window to allow the creation of one of the more common basic hatch patterns like this // // // ?

                          If you scroll back a few pages you can see that it is the roadmap of using costum patterns. Where one could use any type of pattern one wish.

                          However I like your idea, and it could be expanded into a feature with inbuilt patterns.
                          We could call them "vector-patterns".
                          Now they would not have so many adjustable parameters, cause the dialog would get swamped. But they would be created by code and not tiled groups, so they (may) be faster to intersect.

                          Unfortunally I'm working a lot on another plugin, so this plugin is not prioritized.
                          Especially since Lo had the Hatchpattern function added, I was under impression people where content with that..

                          But if there is more interest I might be able to squeeze in an update when time permitts. I have by no means given up on this plugin..

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                            ArCAD-UK
                            last edited by

                            @jolran said:

                            I was under impression people where content with that..
                            Not really. Raster hatching comes with scaling / dpi issues.

                            The offset was just a suggestion as I thought it might be easy to add unlike shape patterns which I can see will be a BIG challenge.

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                            • jolranJ Offline
                              jolran
                              last edited by

                              Right, that was my opinion too. Not Always good printing result.

                              There may be a possibility to pull off a few simpler pattern combinations in code.
                              Which would be faster to intersect.

                              OK, I pull up this one a notch in priority then. No promises made. Gotta try and finish some projects and not just start new ones πŸ˜„

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                                elvirem
                                last edited by

                                Great thanks Jolran : that's my dream !! Unfortunately it doesn t work for Mac with skp8.. if anybody knows how to develop this plugin for mac, that would be really great πŸ˜„

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                                • Dave RD Offline
                                  Dave R
                                  last edited by

                                  It does indeed work on Mac. πŸ˜’

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                                  If it didn't for you, the most likely causes are incorrect installation or lack of permissions to the Plugins folder. You'll have to give some useful information about if you want help sorting it out. Further development of the plugin isn't the answer, though.

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                                  • jolranJ Offline
                                    jolran
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi Elvirem.

                                    Can you be more specific, "than it does not work", please.
                                    I woulden't even know where to start debugging..

                                    Since Dave R (Thank you) can provide a screenshot of a working solution the issue is not general.

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    If anybody knows how to develop this plugin for mac, that would be really great

                                    I havent updated the plugin for quite a while, since working on other plugin. But I intend to update at later point, even have code for doing so. So I would prefer letting me be in charge of updating my plugin.

                                    As Dave said, please come back with some more information, and I try to help you πŸ˜„
                                    / Joel

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                                    • SkalpS Offline
                                      Skalp
                                      last edited by

                                      @lapx said:

                                      Me too! It would be nice if it could read and tranaslate autocad hatch file. We need some cross polination of the minds on this one. πŸ˜„
                                      I wonder if it works on curved surfaces...I must experiment.
                                      Thanks!

                                      Lapx,

                                      Take a look to Skalp for Sketchup, we have a live section tool and handle Autocad hatch patterns. We create tileable textures based on Autocad pattern files and have the ability to export them back to dxf .

                                      The Skalp Team

                                      Skalp
                                      http://www.skalp4sketchup.com

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                                      • jolranJ Offline
                                        jolran
                                        last edited by

                                        That looks really nice, I must say.

                                        What I think people want is the edgepatterns in Sketchup, so they can get better print in Layout. (That does come at a cost so I do understand why you use textures)

                                        I don't think one can insert a DXF in LAyout ?
                                        So the workflow is to export DXF. Import DXF to SKetchup and Align to sectioncut, or am I missing a step ?

                                        Best regards/
                                        Joel

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                                        • SkalpS Offline
                                          Skalp
                                          last edited by

                                          @jolran said:

                                          That looks really nice, I must say.

                                          What I think people want is the edgepatterns in Sketchup, so they can get better print in Layout. (That does come at a cost so I do understand why you use textures)

                                          I don't think one can insert a DXF in LAyout ?
                                          So the workflow is to export DXF. Import DXF to SKetchup and Align to sectioncut, or am I missing a step ?

                                          Best regards/
                                          Joel

                                          Jolran,

                                          We create also tileable textures from autocad pattern files for use in SketchUp and Layout. We optimize the textures for printing at 300dpi (this is the max dpi layout prints) so you want get better results with vectors. Only when we export to layout we change this texture by the original pattern definition.

                                          The Skalp Team.

                                          Skalp
                                          http://www.skalp4sketchup.com

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                                          • JQLJ Offline
                                            JQL
                                            last edited by

                                            @skalp said:

                                            @jolran said:

                                            That looks really nice, I must say.

                                            What I think people want is the edgepatterns in Sketchup, so they can get better print in Layout. (That does come at a cost so I do understand why you use textures)

                                            I don't think one can insert a DXF in LAyout ?
                                            So the workflow is to export DXF. Import DXF to SKetchup and Align to sectioncut, or am I missing a step ?

                                            Best regards/
                                            Joel

                                            Jolran,

                                            We create also tileable textures from autocad pattern files for use in SketchUp and Layout. We optimize the textures for printing at 300dpi (this is the max dpi layout prints) so you want get better results with vectors. Only when we export to layout we change this texture by the original pattern definition.

                                            The Skalp Team.

                                            This system of yours is really great! The only reason stopping me from using Skalp is that I would have to change the way I model in sketchup to be able to have your sections working. I never model the inner parts of the building and design every detail as 2D components inside SU sections.

                                            So (I'm sorry for stealing the thread but...) I have a feature suggestion for you:

                                            A way to make Skalp respect those components and don't erase them when generating a new section, whilst allow them to be exported like the rest of the section. If you had that feature working, then Skalp could really become a completely must have plugin...

                                            I would be really interested in this and if you want to discuss more I could send you some PM or whatever...

                                            Best regards,

                                            JQL

                                            www.casca.pt
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