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  • L Offline
    leedeetee
    last edited by 19 Jun 2011, 15:32

    Hiya,

    Can;t get my head around how I go about detailing the stone windows/mullions of churches.

    For example, currently drawing the window attached, but the only way I can think of adding the detail to the stone so it appears correctly is to offset the panes, push/pull them out, then do a follow me between the pane and the new stone?

    Am i being extremely dense here? This is the sort of detail on the stone I am after: http://www.photosofchurches.com/images/Wales/Anglesey,%20Menai%20Bridge,%20St%20Tysilio%27s%20Church%20Window.jpg


    Current window

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    • G Offline
      Gaieus
      last edited by 19 Jun 2011, 15:56

      How much do you want those profiles be detailed, Lee? (You could obviously detail it extremely but that could be an overkill).

      I used single edges then tube along pipe plugin with a simple square diagonally placed on some windows I made. If it is not a close-up, it is fairly good result like this one:


      http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/download?mid=4bbe1352c72a59f29309c12303f68245&rtyp=lt&ctyp=other&ts=1278183608000

      (click on the pic to get to the WH model)

      Gai...

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      • L Offline
        leedeetee
        last edited by 19 Jun 2011, 16:04

        I am just trying to do some renders of my local, I took some photographs this morning and am just working on the nave at the moment. Your method may work very well. Need to have a play though - not used the tube along pipe plugin ...... yet! Will download it now.

        Attached is one of the windows I am trying to re-create ...

        Thanks Gai. πŸ‘


        Holy Trinity

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        • L Offline
          leedeetee
          last edited by 19 Jun 2011, 16:05

          P.s. Is this the plugin?

          http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=1709&hilit=tube+along+pipe+plugin

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          • E Offline
            EscapeArtist
            last edited by 19 Jun 2011, 18:14

            It's not too difficult to detail a Gothic window, I did this one years ago with nothing more than the arc tool and follow me:

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            (sketchup.google.com)

            You could also use the bezier plugin to have more curve options. The only other pointer I could remind you of is to make sure you build your model at 10x or more scale, when the curves intersect at the various points it can leave a lot of holes or SU won't want to intersect the small faces if modeled life size.

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            • W Offline
              watkins
              last edited by 19 Jun 2011, 20:06

              Try looking here for inspiration

              http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=9781&p=62334#p62334

              Regards,
              Bob

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              • L Offline
                leedeetee
                last edited by 19 Jun 2011, 20:45

                Thanks, chaps. My brother is a stained glass window restorer so would really love to nail the techniques involved. I think I'm making the whole window thing more complicated than it needs to be. Will give it another crack tomorrow with a fresh head.

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                • L Offline
                  leedeetee
                  last edited by 21 Jun 2011, 21:40

                  For anyone finding this thread in the future, I created my window(s) by using lines, arcs, follow me and intersection with model. Easy really, if a little bit of a ballache. πŸ˜„


                  Holy Trinity Window

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                  • E Offline
                    EscapeArtist
                    last edited by 22 Jun 2011, 02:41

                    Very nicely done. Thanks for showing what you came up with!

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                    • L Offline
                      leedeetee
                      last edited by 28 Jun 2011, 20:37

                      Thanks, EA.

                      Attached are a couple of basic renders showing the window. Turned out OK I think.


                      HolyTrinityScene.jpg


                      HolyTrinityScene1.jpg

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                      • E Offline
                        EscapeArtist
                        last edited by 29 Jun 2011, 02:44

                        Nice detail!

                        I don't know what you rendered it it, but it would look great with some sunlight coming in and falling on the floor.

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                        • pilouP Offline
                          pilou
                          last edited by 29 Jun 2011, 10:52

                          You have also Lattice-zicer by TIG

                          http://forums.sketchucation.com/download/file.php?id=28262&mode=view

                          or City Street Generator + Clean up by Thomthom
                          Make face for the big internal facets

                          http://forums.sketchucation.com/download/file.php?id=42058&t=1

                          and this method

                          http://forums.sketchucation.com/download/file.php?id=42166&mode=view

                          "Multiple Face Offset" By Remus 😎

                          Windowizer (3 free or 4) By Rick Wilson @Smustard

                          Selection Only faces by Selection Toys by Thomthom β˜€
                          Invert Selection by TIG β˜€

                          Geodegics ! 😎

                          Frenchy Pilou
                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                          My Little site :)

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by 29 Jun 2011, 11:35

                            And of course there is a 'GothicWidow' Ruby - but as I helped a Masters student co-write it it's not in the public-domain... Here are all of the permutations you can set for a customized size/arch-spring/pattern etc Capture.PNGCapture1.PNG

                            TIG

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                            • Rich O BrienR Offline
                              Rich O Brien Moderator
                              last edited by 29 Jun 2011, 11:36

                              Thanks πŸ˜’

                              Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by 29 Jun 2011, 11:59

                                Your welcome!
                                [Just one of my many talents that are still hidden under that proverbial bushel πŸ˜‰ ]

                                TIG

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                                • G Offline
                                  Gaieus
                                  last edited by 29 Jun 2011, 12:02

                                  Those look very much like the ones I made with the tube along path plugin (at least the composition and the cross section - as well as the "joins" where the certain pieces still need some care and intersecting).

                                  Gai...

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by 29 Jun 2011, 12:05

                                    Same idea, it's just all automated from a dialog where you input values for the various dims, arch-type etc.
                                    It needs so manual tidying after creation as that part can be awkward 'in code'...
                                    Here's a tidied, hidden-line versionCapture.PNG

                                    TIG

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                                    • L Offline
                                      leedeetee
                                      last edited by 29 Jun 2011, 12:37

                                      Wow, that would have done the trick, TIG! 😲

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                                      • TIGT Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by 29 Jun 2011, 20:06

                                        Unfortunately it's subject to a NDA... 😞

                                        TIG

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                                        • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                          Rich O Brien Moderator
                                          last edited by 29 Jun 2011, 20:11

                                          I won't tell anyone....not even that asshole you hate

                                          Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp

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