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    • Rich O BrienR Online
      Rich O Brien Moderator
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      That means you don't have a co-planar face.

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        erzane
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        ok I see now
        p.s. I tryed to resolve it by drawing it again and it's ok now
        thanks a lot

        now I will have a 2nd question for the same buidling
        I tryed to reproduct my appartement
        (dimensions are ok , I mesured and they're the same as my appartement, angles to)
        with my camera I took this pic, but with sketchup I cannot have same result
        and I see, for exemple the view is not very straight, perhaps it's the problem ? I dont know why but I cannot have a more straight view, for sure perhaps I could rotate the project but from the beginning I builded it straight with the help of the 3 coloured lines

        http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/9828/dscn6873.jpg


        http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/5111/capture02tu.jpg


        http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/2561/capt11023003727001.jpg

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        • Dave RD Offline
          Dave R
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          How about posting the SKP file for us to look at. I think that'll be more helpful than your images.

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          • honoluludesktopH Offline
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            Switch to Camera > Two Point Perspective, then set the camera height with Camera > Position Camera. Try out all the camera controls to get the view you want. Don't forget to save your scene.

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            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
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              Also, when you realise that something has gone wrong and some of your edge loops are not coplanar, displaying edges by axis in your active style can be a great help.


              ByAxis.png

              Gai...

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                erzane
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                DaveR thanks for your idea, I didnt know it's possible, can you tell me how to proceed?
                of course this will help better than my pics^^

                Honoluludesktop
                ok I will try

                Gaieus
                true

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                • GaieusG Offline
                  Gaieus
                  last edited by

                  Under the text area you are posting, there is an "Upload attachment" tab.

                  Gai...

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                    erzane
                    last edited by

                    ok,
                    here is


                    hope this will help u & me

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                    • GaieusG Offline
                      Gaieus
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                      If you mean that those two edges you posted in the last screenshots are not good, it seems they are (look at Scene 1 in the attached model below - they are red and blue showing they are at a right angle).

                      I have also checked some of the other angles (see the other tabs) and now I am not sure what exactly the problem is - or where you want to end up with the model.

                      I turned the axes on and also changed the style to display edges by axis.


                      appart.skp

                      Gai...

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                      • Dave RD Offline
                        Dave R
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                        From what I can understand, you want to see the top and bottom edges of the wall as horizontal. See the attached. I right clicked on that wall and chose Align View. Does that do what you want?

                        By the way, I convert your floor grids to instances of a single component and purged unused stuff which cut your file size down by more than 66%.


                        appart.skp

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                        • GaieusG Offline
                          Gaieus
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                          He probably used some plugin for the components (in my version, I hid them on a layer). Maybe TT's selection toys or similar:
                          http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=14975

                          Under Window > Model info > Statistics you can purge all unused components, layers, materials and styles.

                          Gai...

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                            erzane
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                            yes now they are, I modified angles on the 3rd pic yesterday, so now all is alright concerning angles
                            thanks for having took a look on them and for having changed style with axes, now it's more clear

                            the problem is what DaveR suggested
                            yes exactly I wanted to see the top and bottom edges of the wall as horizontal.
                            thanks for having changing it, now I know how you proceeded

                            so, now that's the type of view I wanted, (which looks the most to true pic of my room)
                            but this is very difficult to have same view as true picture

                            http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4786/capt11023140230001.jpg

                            how did you converted the floor grids to instances of a single component?
                            I made 4 pieces but 1 wasen't really well disposed, so thanks for that

                            about purging unused stuff which cut file size down by more than 66%
                            what does that mean ?

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                            • Dave RD Offline
                              Dave R
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                              Yes, I used a plugin to convert the floor grids to instances of the same component. My suggestion would be to make components from the beginning so you don't have to go back and deal with them later.

                              Purging is an important thing to do to get rid of unused stuff in your models. Your original model isn't that large but once you start adding in furniture and other details, the file size could get quite large. Anything you can do to keep that under control will be helpful and you may as well learn good housekeeping from the start.

                              One thing to consider with the view you are trying to achieve is that it looks like you turned the camera to take a vertical photo. You could create the same view in SketchUp by setting the drawing window to be the same shape (drag the corners) and adjusting the angle of view/focal length of the camera. While changing the size of the drawing window works, it can cause problems with toolbars you have displayed. It's probably easier to leave the drawing window and crop the image you export (File>Export>2D...) using your favorite image editor.

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                                erzane
                                last edited by

                                concerning plugin to convert the floor grids to instances of the same component and purging operations
                                ok I see, I will follow your suggestions

                                concerning the camera view
                                I dont understand 100%, pls can you explain me how to proceed
                                p.s. I have an eizo rotative monitor if it can helps ?..
                                p.s. yes I turned camera vertical for making true pic of my room

                                concerning toolbars I can take them off without prob
                                yes I would like to create same view
                                what does ''crop'' mean ?
                                what does ''drag'' the corners ? how to do ?
                                p.s. I tryed to export my pic but I didn't succeeded
                                is it a rapport with that Honoluludesktop suggested ?

                                p.s. I will come back home in 1 or 2 hours
                                thanks again for al your helps guys

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                                • Dave RD Offline
                                  Dave R
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                                  @erzane said:

                                  concerning the camera view
                                  I dont understand 100%, pls can you explain me how to proceed
                                  p.s. I have an eizo rotative monitor if it can helps ?..
                                  p.s. yes I turned camera vertical for making true pic of my room

                                  You can change the angle of view or lens focal length for SketchUp's camera by selecting the Zoom tool and typing either the angle of view. (35, Enter would give you a 35° angle of view) or focal length including 'mm' (50mm, Enter would give you the equivalent of a 50mm camera lens).

                                  If you want to rotate your monitor and work with it that way, you can certainly do so.

                                  @erzane said:

                                  concerning toolbars I can take them off without prob
                                  yes I would like to create same view
                                  what does ''crop'' mean ?
                                  what does ''drag'' the corners ? how to do ?
                                  p.s. I tryed to export my pic but I didn't succeeded
                                  is it a rapport with that Honoluludesktop suggested ?

                                  "Crop" means to trim the image after exporting it. It would be similar to trimming a printed photograph with scissors to cut away stuff you don't want to see. Most of the things I draw don't fit the horizontal shape of my drawing window so the exported images get cropped to suit the subject and eliminate unneeded background.

                                  "Drag" means to move the corners or edges of your drawing window to change its shape.

                                  What problem did you have as far as exporting an image from SketchUp? You should be able to go to File>Export>2D Graphic and export a JPG or PNG image with no problem.

                                  Here is an example of cropping.

                                  First, the image exported directly from SketchUp:

                                  appart.png

                                  And then the cropped image:

                                  appart cropped.jpg

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                                    erzane
                                    last edited by

                                    ok I see now

                                    do you think I can have a better view with skp ?
                                    I feel skp camera view is limited for imitate real view of reality, like on my true pics if you compare both

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                                      erzane
                                      last edited by

                                      ok I see now better whats mean those words
                                      I will make some tests concerning skp cameras settings and will give you news asap
                                      thanks for all your explanations

                                      p.s. about exporting 2d image
                                      it's ok now I understood which mean this 'exporting' word better
                                      in most of the cases I always took a capture of my work for export it,
                                      now I know it's better across this menu

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                                      • GaieusG Offline
                                        Gaieus
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                                        Gábor, I see you are a member of the French usergroup (guess your location). Do you speak any Hungarian as well?

                                        Gai...

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                                          erzane
                                          last edited by

                                          yes for sure I speak hungarian, french and english
                                          multkor beszéltunk is, emlékszel ra ?

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                                          • GaieusG Offline
                                            Gaieus
                                            last edited by

                                            Ah igen, bocs...
                                            😄

                                            Gai...

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