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  • D Offline
    DavidBoulder
    last edited by 23 Feb 2011, 18:00

    In the last to months I have had four users of our plug-in report this problem. It also effect the native Sketchup dynamic component dialogs; which also use web dialogs. This effects both SketchUp 8(and 8.1) and SketchUp 7. All for users are non-US users on Windows 7 or XP. I have not seen this at all prior to this, so the timing of this makes me thing an update to the system browser caused the problem. Attached are samples of good and bad versions of the component attributes dialog.

    Bad Component Attribute Dialog

    Good Component Attribute Dialog

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    David Goldwasser
    OpenStudio Developer
    National Renewable Energy Laboratory

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      Gaieus
      last edited by 23 Feb 2011, 21:25

      David, over the Thea forums they discovered that IE installs can be somehow compromised per user account on a shared computer. Please, check what happens if you create a brand new account and try to launch these webdialogs.

      Gai...

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        DavidBoulder
        last edited by 23 Feb 2011, 21:35

        Thanks, I'll send the users that info, and see if that works.

        David

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        David Goldwasser
        OpenStudio Developer
        National Renewable Energy Laboratory

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          TIG Moderator
          last edited by 23 Feb 2011, 22:19

          There's also been some stuff about these webdialogs' csses only looking for Arial font... and if the users don't have that installed then there's no alternative font so it screws up ? πŸ˜•

          TIG

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            thomthom
            last edited by 24 Feb 2011, 09:08

            @tig said:

            There's also been some stuff about these webdialogs' csses only looking for Arial font... and if the users don't have that installed then there's no alternative font so it screws up ? πŸ˜•

            That's very odd. Browsers always fall back on another font. If the CSS doesn't specify it, then the browser default should kick in.

            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              TIG Moderator
              last edited by 24 Feb 2011, 09:44

              tt

              I know... there was a post somewhere about this issue... but I can't find it... πŸ˜•

              EDIT: I've PM'd you with the link to it on 'another forum'... πŸ˜‰

              TIG

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                DavidBoulder
                last edited by 24 Feb 2011, 15:27

                Gaieus,

                THANKS!

                Two of the four users have already emailed back that web dialogs worked fine in a new user account.

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                David Goldwasser
                OpenStudio Developer
                National Renewable Energy Laboratory

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                  Gaieus
                  last edited by 24 Feb 2011, 16:45

                  It's modelhead and Notareal who figured this out. So this seems to be a broader issue and with IE. Good to know, thanks.
                  πŸ‘

                  Gai...

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                    thomthom
                    last edited by 24 Feb 2011, 16:51

                    Could it be Javascript that's disabled?

                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      Gaieus
                      last edited by 24 Feb 2011, 17:16

                      No, as far as I remember, it was some compromised registry or what per user account. Maybe (MAYBE!!!) caused by some virus infection but they could never prove it. Here is the topic in question on the Thea forum:
                      http://www.thearender.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4428

                      (Why is it always me who ha to keep everything in mind even on other forums)
                      πŸ˜’

                      Gai...

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                        thomthom
                        last edited by 25 Feb 2011, 08:10

                        Or maybe a registry cleaner. They can sometimes cause more pain than relief.

                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                          kachupp
                          last edited by 25 Feb 2011, 08:59

                          [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Google\SketchUp8\WebDialog]
                          [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Google\SketchUp8\WebDialog_]
                          [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Google\SketchUp8\WebDialog_bzasdfa2ctrasaasdfa123]
                          [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Google\SketchUp8\WebDialog_xfasdffxxxxfae]
                          [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Google\SketchUp8\WebDialog_xfxfsae]
                          [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Google\SketchUp8\WebDialog_xfxxxxfae]

                          Notice the random key names like WebDialog_bzasdfa2ctrasaasdfa123 _ xfasdffxxxxfae etc…
                          See thread on β€œreasons why sketchup 8 may crash”

                          I mean its not a natural name an author might use is it? πŸ˜•

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                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by 25 Feb 2011, 09:47

                            When the code sets up the webdialog it gives a Registry entry, e.g.
                            @dlg=UI::WebDialog.new("Β© TIG 2011",false,"TIGsSpecialTool",600,740,25,25,false)
                            either as anew one or using an existing one.
                            Which would make this dialog's Registry entry
                            WebDialog_TIGsSpecialTool
                            with its 4 location/size key/values.
                            If you make the entry "" it makes or uses WebDialog_
                            I wouldn't expect these 'random' entries... either you have a script that IS writing random values for these... OR something is broken on your system... πŸ˜•

                            TIG

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                              notareal
                              last edited by 25 Feb 2011, 15:33

                              @gaieus said:

                              It's modelhead and Notareal who figured this out. So this seems to be a broader issue and with IE. Good to know, thanks.
                              πŸ‘

                              It was not particularly pinpointed to IE (just a stong suspect). Anyhow it was verified that a new user profile did fix the problem, but the root for the issue did stay unlear (had no change to do a deeper analysis).

                              Effect of 'random' entries should be trivial to test if one have time... just create manually similar random entries πŸ˜„ I sort of doupt that this actually have much effect, but still worth to test. No idea what might couse these entries.

                              Welcome to try [Thea Render](http://www.thearender.com/), Thea support | [kerkythea.net](http://www.kerkythea.net/) -team member

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