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    • M Offline
      mgfranz
      last edited by mgfranz

      OK, I got my little carving done, only took about 4 hours... JK, it was a learning curve.

      But I am having a problem getting the component to intersect with a face of my model. I have tried everything that I can understand, but nothing I do seems to want to allow me to intersect the component with the model so I can clean out the inside of the carvings.

      I tried exploding the components, selecting all, tried all three of the Intersect methods in SU7, in SU8 the Intersect option states that there are no solids in the model to intersect.

      Pic and .skp attached.

      http://www.mgfic.com/Pics/Low_Wall_Case.jpg

      Low_Wall_Case.skp

      "If you like what you do, it will never be work..."
      In memory of Sam Maloof, 1916-2009

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      • Rich O BrienR Offline
        Rich O Brien Moderator
        last edited by

        That link goes nowhere? Unless the problem is my end?

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        • M Offline
          mgfranz
          last edited by

          @unknownuser said:

          That link goes nowhere? Unless the problem is my end?

          No, it was my bad, had to configure the MIME for the directory.

          "If you like what you do, it will never be work..."
          In memory of Sam Maloof, 1916-2009

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          • GaieusG Offline
            Gaieus
            last edited by

            I downloaded the file and could not exactly figure out why it is not intersecting yet.

            However that carving is in 3D and is placed backwards onto that face (the 3D part showing inside the solid door). Is that on purpose or is it just incidental?

            Gai...

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            • Dave RD Offline
              Dave R
              last edited by

              Mark,

              I see the problem you're having and figured out why. Take a look at the screen grab. The arrow points to a very narrow gap between halves of the petals and so there's also a gap in the edge on the surface of the door. The intersect works fine but the missing line segment results in no break between inside and outside. Of course since all the petals are copies. they all have the same problem.


              http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1075/5125148337_225bae869b.jpg

              When you draw the first retal, you need to make sure that there is no gap.

              Nice cabinet design. Is it something you're going to build.

              Csaba, I think Mark intends to carve out the petals so the orientation is correct.

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              • M Offline
                mgfranz
                last edited by

                Thanks Dave, I fixed that issue, (actually had to create a new component of fans), but it still won't intersect. The fans can be closed and I can create a face out of them but they will just not intersect to a face. What am I doing wrong?

                New .skp file - Low_Wall_Case.skp

                "If you like what you do, it will never be work..."
                In memory of Sam Maloof, 1916-2009

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                • Dave RD Offline
                  Dave R
                  last edited by

                  Hang tight and I'll take a look.

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                  • Dave RD Offline
                    Dave R
                    last edited by

                    Mark, the edges still aren't closed.


                    http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1239/5126864744_be437ffb07.jpg

                    The gaps are difficult to see because you're working with profiles set to 3. If I have some time this evening I'll see if I can make a tutorial to show you how to do it and get it to work.

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                    • M Offline
                      mgfranz
                      last edited by

                      @dave r said:

                      Mark, the edges still aren't closed.

                      The gaps are difficult to see because you're working with profiles set to 3. If I have some time this evening I'll see if I can make a tutorial to show you how to do it and get it to work.

                      That would be awesome! In the mean time I'll see what I can do to find those open face items. But shouldn't the Intersect have placed all the closed faces of the fan component on the surface face I selected?

                      "If you like what you do, it will never be work..."
                      In memory of Sam Maloof, 1916-2009

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                      • Dave RD Offline
                        Dave R
                        last edited by

                        I've been looking at your model some more. I can't create a flat face to skin over the petals. My computer here is under powered though so it is kind of slow. It looks like the exterior edges of your petals are not coplanar either.

                        I found some other issues with your model unrelated to the fans. We should probably talk about those, too. I'll see what I can manage tonight.

                        By the way, Intersect does not intersect coplanar faces.

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                        • M Offline
                          mgfranz
                          last edited by

                          @dave r said:

                          By the way, Intersect does not intersect coplanar faces.

                          It doesn't? See, I learned something else...

                          I'm sure there are a few issues with the original drawing, I slapped it together in less than an hour without the carvings.

                          I did take another look at the fan component and found a number of mistakes that I can correct. Playing with it now and am found a number of edges that did not line up to a plane, fixing them and I was able to get a partial intersect with the face. Half of the fans are still not intersecting which is strange since they are exact duplicates of each other...

                          "If you like what you do, it will never be work..."
                          In memory of Sam Maloof, 1916-2009

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