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    • D Offline
      DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
      last edited by

      @unknownuser said:

      @diego-rodriguez said:

      tig, really thank you very much.
      to hear any suggestions on this tool. thank you very much.
      I found only one bug. does not draw the rectangle tool on inclined coplanar faces.

      i'm thinking this is some sort of glitch with sketchup itself regarding the orientation of the bounding box.. you can recreate this behavior without using WorkPlane.. see attached skp

      yes. and if it works the other tools (circle, polygon, arch)
      However,
      if the geometry is generated as a group or component directly from ruby, SI can draw shapes on inclined planes.
      if you later apply any modification to this geometry (move, scale, ungroup, etc. ..) this property is lost.

      Le adjunto imágenes de dos plugins que probé.

      polar zonohedron

      http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/2558/52784550.gif

      work plane 1.5

      http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/3791/94618514.gif

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      • EarthMoverE Offline
        EarthMover
        last edited by

        Diego, the "Rotated Rectangle" tool works well on sloped planes. (Even after it's been manipulated)


        Rotated Rec WP.gif

        3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
        Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
        Content Creator at Skapeup

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        • EarthMoverE Offline
          EarthMover
          last edited by

          😄 I had her out partying last night and she forgot to take it off! 😳

          3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
          Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
          Content Creator at Skapeup

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
            last edited by

            Little problem 😄
            Rotation from the context menu is not on the Coplanar plan of the Work plane (when this one is inclined) 😉
            it would have been too simple 💚
            rotation.png

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • CadFatherC Offline
              CadFather
              last edited by

              you're right Diego, and that's quite a nasty one

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                The glitch where you can't align a 2pt-rectangle [or sometimes a circle] onto a sloping face if it's a group/component-instance and its plane doesn't pass through the origin and is not axial on the x_axis [ 😒 ] is a known problem with both v7 and v8 - it's logged with them and hopefully a fix might appear in a maintenance release...
                The problem isn't specific to this tool - it's general and is easily reproduced by making objects manually and trying to snap 2pt-rectangles to their sloping faces in different orientations... [however, a 3pt-rectangle will work OK as it's not 'built-in' and its code is in fact the starting point for my WorkPlane's tool itself] 😲 😢

                TIG

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                • jeff hammondJ Offline
                  jeff hammond
                  last edited by

                  @diego-rodriguez said:

                  However,
                  if the geometry is generated as a group or component directly from ruby, SI can draw shapes on inclined planes.
                  if you later apply any modification to this geometry (move, scale, ungroup, etc. ..) this property is lost.

                  really, i think it's beyond wether or not the shape was created via ruby..
                  also, you can move a group and still have it accept the rectangle tool IF you move it along the green axis.. it's a su glitch..

                  look at this video for more weird behavior.. depending on the xy orientation, the rectangle may or may not work..

                  tig can probably fix this but it's gonna be him fighting the su bug instead of fixing a bug in his script..

                  [flash=660,405:vu38m2u3]http://www.youtube.com/v/4ZFhL-rD2PM?fs=1&hl=en_US&color1=0x2b405b&color2=0x6b8ab6&border=1[/flash:vu38m2u3]

                  dotdotdot

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                  • CadFatherC Offline
                    CadFather
                    last edited by

                    ..seems worse in su8

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                    • D Offline
                      DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
                      last edited by

                      strange.
                      I have reported this error:
                      http://sketchup.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=bug

                      and his response was:
                      "Hi Diego:

                      Thank you for your message and attach particular image capture.
                      We've been very helpful!

                      Answering your question: the behavior you encountered is a
                      normal behavior.
                      Geometry within a group or component does not relate to the same
                      so
                      geometry itself.

                      If you want to draw a rectangle, tilted in one of his drawings, you
                      suggest you draw the geometry and twist it to match the
                      plane. Another option is to do it without going to the group.

                      I hope these tips have been helpful!

                      Regards,

                      The Google Team


                      any programmer can tell google about this problem?
                      probably have more success than me.

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                      • jeff hammondJ Offline
                        jeff hammond
                        last edited by

                        [all this glitch talk aside...]

                        it might be nice if tig could make a 3point rectangle tool (or does one already exist?).. it would be able to draw properly on the work plane but it's use would extend far beyond that..
                        there are plenty of instances where the normal fails and a 3pt version would easily accomplish it..

                        it'd basically be just like the first steps of WorkPlane so most of the coding is already done anyway (well, it at least seems that way for someone that doesn't write code 😉 )

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                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
                          jeff hammond
                          last edited by

                          3pt.jpg

                          [edit - lol.. it's almost already in 2D tools] 😉

                          dotdotdot

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                          • EarthMoverE Offline
                            EarthMover
                            last edited by

                            Jeff, check here. That is what I'm using in the last video I posted - http://download.sketchup.com/downloads/downloads/rubyscripts/rectangle.zip Shows up as "Rotated Rectangle" in the Draw Menu.

                            (It's also included in CadFather's CD Draw tools)

                            3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                            Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                            Content Creator at Skapeup

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                            • BoxB Online
                              Box
                              last edited by

                              Another excellent Tig Tool.

                              Just one question/suggestion, is it possible to have numbering added to the grid.
                              When I'm putting together a ship I have over 300 frame references set at .64m, to have those frame numbers automatically on the grid would be a godsend.

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                              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                jeff hammond
                                last edited by

                                @earthmover said:

                                Jeff, check here. That is what I'm using in the last video I posted - http://download.sketchup.com/downloads/downloads/rubyscripts/rectangle.zip Shows up as "Rotated Rectangle" in the Draw Menu.

                                (It's also included in CadFather's CD Draw tools)

                                hahaha

                                i've wanted that tool since i started using sketchup.. looks like it's been around at least that long 😳

                                [diego, i'm thinking this is the best solution at the moment for drawing rectangles on the workplanes.. '⇧R' seems to be a perfect shortcut (that is if you're used to 'R' for ]

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                                • kenK Offline
                                  ken
                                  last edited by

                                  Well, this plugin started out as a reliable, jeans wearing working plugin. Now it is a $20,000.00 “Say Yes to the Dress” wedding gown.

                                  Thanks TIG

                                  Fight like your the third monkey on Noah's Ark gangway.

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                                  • mitcorbM Offline
                                    mitcorb
                                    last edited by

                                    I woke up this morning, 5:00am GMT-6, saw the latest version 1.6, downloaded it as zip only, placed it in my collecting folder, go out of town for 5 hours and the damned thing is obsolete 3 times over!

                                    Talk about your "worktigers" 😆
                                    TIG, you are one dedicated guy. And you are appreciated!

                                    I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                                    • TIGT Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      Here's v2.0 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=274345#p274345
                                      Thought I'd post it while it's hot...
                                      Three 'Rotate Selected X/Y/Z' options are now added for the group's 3 axes; each one rotates the WorkPlane about its appropriate axis...
                                      A new 'Move Selected' tool is added to the context-menu: this lets you move a selected WorkPlane although for other tools it is 'locked', done as the main Move tool - by picking two points, or one-point + typed_distance: it draws a temporary outline of the original WorkPlane location as you move it around, so you can snap to it if needed.
                                      🤓

                                      TIG

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                                      • B Offline
                                        Ben Ritter
                                        last edited by

                                        Yeah, now here's I guy who love his work. Or, he has nothing else to do 😉

                                        Thank you so much.

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                                        • EarthMoverE Offline
                                          EarthMover
                                          last edited by

                                          😍 Getting better and better!

                                          In the next release, when you bring up the "move" tool, can you have the "move click" drop in temporary world axis clines? It would make moving the thing a lot easier.

                                          I also think it might behoove workflow to have the right click options added to the toolbar. (CadFather?) What do the rest of you guys think? Which way is easier?

                                          😆 Poor TIG.....we've got to be making him nuts! I hope everyone remembers to get the wallet out and donate to the man for all his hard work!!!!!!!

                                          3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                                          Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                                          Content Creator at Skapeup

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                                          • thomthomT Offline
                                            thomthom
                                            last edited by

                                            @earthmover said:

                                            😆 Poor TIG.....we've got to be making him nuts! I hope everyone remembers to get the wallet out and donate to the man for all his hard work!!!!!!!

                                            +1

                                            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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