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    • Dave RD 離線
      Dave R
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      @anton_s said:

      Calculate center of area/volume

      There are tools for that already. Try here, here, here, here...

      Etaoin Shrdlu

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      • A 離線
        Anton_S
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        @dave r said:

        @anton_s said:

        Calculate center of area/volume

        There are tools for that already. Try here, here, here, here...

        The only 'here' I was talking about was the first and the last one...

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        • D 離線
          dsarchs
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          @ thomthom

          Thanks for the correction.

          Knowledge is a polite word for dead but not buried imagination.

          -e.e.cummings

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          • oganocaliO 離線
            oganocali
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            My list is soo short.

            PERFORMANCE!

            There... I had to shout it aloud. Specifically I wish to be able to explode the silly tiny (ish) attached one component with 24K faces faster than fixing myself a cup of coffee. My guess is if this is fixed scaling rotating, and editing will also speed up.


            performance_problem.skp

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            • TIGT 離線
              TIG Moderator
              最後由 編輯

              @oganocali said:

              My list is soo short.

              PERFORMANCE!

              There... I had to shout it aloud. Specifically I wish to be able to explode the silly tiny (ish) attached one component with 24K faces faster than fixing myself a cup of coffee. My guess is if this is fixed scaling rotating, and editing will also speed up.
              But 100s for something this complex seems acceptable to me - my PC is pants too ! 😕

              TIG

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              • oganocaliO 離線
                oganocali
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                My computer is not that bad (i7 2600 with 8 gig ram). In my case it takes over 30 seconds to explode.
                24K faces should be nothing with these computers. This case is complex only by SketchUp standards.
                Apparently SketchUp takes several million instructions per face for the explode operation (for this case).
                I did a quick experimentation varying the size

                face count |  explode time (secs)
                     3K        ------|      < 0.5 
                     6K        ------|         2        
                     12K       -----|         8
                     24K       -----|        30
                     48K       -----|          ?
                

                Admittedly the times are only approximate but seems to me the explode operation has n^2 complexity. Double the size -> quadruple the time (which should be fixable).

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                • thomthomT 離線
                  thomthom
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                  SketchUp also takes longer to add geometry the more geometry already exist in the context its added it.

                  I'm guessing that it's due to SketchUp's nature of automatically merge and intersect geometry. This differs from most other 3D modellers where you explicitly needs to tell it to split and merge.

                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  • oganocaliO 離線
                    oganocali
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                    @thomthom, I would expect the incremental merge/split/intersect cost to increase with increasing size but my suspicion is that incremental cost is linear for SU (whereas it should be sub-linear). Explicit split/merge would be a nice workaround indeed.
                    Ogan

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                    • thomthomT 離線
                      thomthom
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                      Well I really hope there is room for improvements, because as you say, Explode becomes horribly slow very quickly.

                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      • onzkiO 離線
                        onzki
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                        My wishlist:

                        1. CAD file and Sketchup file XREF feature
                        2. CAD import improved.. don't break cad lines please, circles are circles not dodecagons 😄
                        3. No more Bug Splats
                        4. Option to autosave to lower version
                        5. Option: to prompt Select layers to show (rest are hidden) when opening of a file. (this option has bypass- just open it, no more prompting)
                        6. Ghost / Invisible layer override! I cant think of a name.. but this layer setting temporarily or permanently disables "Snaps" thereby making it behave like an image underlay as long as you want.

                        [/hr]Dell Alienware Area-51. SKU 2021 Pro. AutoCAD 2023. Landscape design firm

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                        • john2J 離線
                          john2
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                          whoa.!! long list of wishes. do the google su devloper guys actually read this 😮 if yes then perhaps they incorporate all this 😍

                          Sketchup Make 2017 (64-bit), Vray 4.0 , Windows 10 – 64 bit, corei7-8750H, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB

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                          • GaieusG 離線
                            Gaieus
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                            They read it and we even get them to prepare weekly reports on where they are at. 😉

                            Gai...

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                            • john2J 離線
                              john2
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                              @gaieus said:

                              They read it and we even get them to prepare weekly reports on where they are at. 😉

                              wow!! 😄 and where are they at now 😉 ? you must be knowing about su 9 release date.

                              Sketchup Make 2017 (64-bit), Vray 4.0 , Windows 10 – 64 bit, corei7-8750H, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB

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                              • GaieusG 離線
                                Gaieus
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                                SU 12 to be more precise... 😉

                                Gai...

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                                • thomthomT 離線
                                  thomthom
                                  最後由 編輯

                                  You're a wicked man Csaba, wicked.

                                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  • A 離線
                                    Aerilius
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                                    If SketchUp joined the version number race (Chrome&Mozilla), we would see new versions more often 😄

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                                    • john2J 離線
                                      john2
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                                      @gaieus said:

                                      SU 12 to be more precise... 😉

                                      just tell me about 9 😉

                                      Sketchup Make 2017 (64-bit), Vray 4.0 , Windows 10 – 64 bit, corei7-8750H, 16GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB

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                                      • TIGT 離線
                                        TIG Moderator
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                                        Those [if any] who are involved in the beta-testing of new versions of Sketchup, Layout and even other Google Tools [if any], will almost certainly have signed an NDA [Non-Disclosure-Agreement], and therefore they will not even be able to tell you about their involvement in this process, let alone to provide any details of their [limited] knowledge [if any] of potential forthcoming changes that could be anticipated [if any], in these products.
                                        😲

                                        TIG

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                                        • GaieusG 離線
                                          Gaieus
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                                          TIG is right. I was obviously joking with version 12 but even if anyone had any knowledge of what is coming up in version 9, (s)he would not be allowed even to hint that there is a new version around the corner - let alone details of the new features.

                                          Gai...

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                                          • TIGT 離線
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            最後由 編輯

                                            Used my best 'legalese' for Csaba's benefit 😉
                                            ☀
                                            PS: Csaba IS [probably] secretly working on "version X" !
                                            I am.
                                            😉

                                            TIG

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