SketchUP 8

Jim

Did they really not include the Solar North Toolbar in the Free version? Is it maybe just not enabled in the Preferences > Extensions dialog?

If it is not included, then it just seems like an over-sight. The same functionality is available from a Ruby plugin, and any number of the scripters here could reproduce it in a few hours at the most.

brodie

I'm pretty surprised by the new release. It's pretty ballsy to release a new version that contains no new tools. We already had bool tools (those of us who wanted them anyhow, I always found intersect geometry worked fine for me), push/pull 2.0? more like 1.1 (I originally misunderstood and thought they'd made it more like JPP which would have been more noteworthy), and all the links with other google programs aren't really new tools since you could use them before, just not linked with SU. And Layout...is that thing still around?

I think the update will be nice. It's not that the changes are bad, really, it's just that it looks like something a small team could have probably worked out in a couple weeks ("Bob, here's $10. Go to smustard and find something you think people will pay $95 for").

They didn't even bother to change the desktop icon for heaven's sake. Come on people, take some pride in your work.

-Brodie

thomthom

@jim said:

Did they really not include the Solar North Toolbar in the Free version? Is it maybe just not enabled in the Preferences > Extensions dialog?

Note - Pro only.

Panga

@unknownuser said:

Did they really not include the Solar North Toolbar in the Free version? Is it maybe just not enabled in the Preferences > Extensions dialog?

Did not test the free version, but if it's real, It's worth than I thought...how to make a release by google :

Turn one of existing ruby script in a new tool (solid tool)
Add a option to an existing tool (push pull), give it a new number...but still far from what ruby scripts does.
Remove some options from the free version, to "satisfy" pro users and get on free users nerves...

I'm not ignoring the opengl improvements that're already welcome...but this relase is a bug fix one...And another thing : thoses fabulous dynamic components of previous release, which could be with a little imagination a good support for animating objects, not a word on it ? not any improvements for them ?

wind-borne

@thomthom said:

@jim said:

Did they really not include the Solar North Toolbar in the Free version? Is it maybe just not enabled in the Preferences > Extensions dialog?

Note - Pro only.

With a Mac you just move the icons up into the main toolbar.

dedmin

And the Generate Report is still useless - only inches...

Aidus

And again, nothing included what users asked for a long time. One huge dissapointment and my choice is now 3ds max. Google you suck!

Starling75

@aidus said:

And again, nothing included what users asked for a long time. One huge dissapointment and my choice is now 3ds max. Google you suck!

3ds max - US$ 3495,-
SU8 Pro - US$ 495,-
SU8 Free -US$ 0,-

........

dedmin

@starling75 said:

@aidus said:

And again, nothing included what users asked for a long time. One huge dissapointment and my choice is now 3ds max. Google you suck!

3ds max - US$ 3495,-
SU8 Pro - US$ 495,-
SU8 Free -US$ 0,-

........

3ds max - US$ 3495,- work done - money flow - happy
SU8 Pro - US$ 495,- can't do this, can't do that - clients go away - no money - wife is gone - happy

hvanessen

I have now problems with my free sketchup 8 edition, everything works perfect.
I want to know why people are disappointed because nobody have said that the must go to version 8. So when you're not happy with the new version stick by the old one.

I use 7 pro and al the things i miss in the 8 free version i can still do in the 7 pro version and then import in 8. For me personal i use the 7 version to create my own materials.

So don't be disappointed because you can still use the 7.1 version. And perhaps we get quite soon a 8.1 version

Marian

3ds max - US$ 3495,- Broke, frustrated, depressed and gray haired
SU8 Free -US$ 0,- No girl, no car, no stable job, little money, yet surprisingly happy.

thomthom

It's all about the right tool for the right job. And that is very subjective. It's not about using a hammer OR a screwdriver.

Aidus

I'm talking about new features. Why that 3ds Max, Maya , Modo and others allways include something handy and really neede when SU just integrates unneded crap like layout and google earth stuff? Where is normal texturing tools for archs for example? That's why I'm calling this SU 8 - another crap from google. Google thinks that my progress with modeling stay's in one position? Come on

cadmunkey

I really needed to move on from 32bit memory space. Looks like I will have to buy a render app that has an external 64bit studio. Any recommendations?

thomthom

@aidus said:

Why that 3ds Max, Maya , Modo and others allways include something handy and really neede when SU just integrates unneded crap like layout and google earth stuff?

Because it's fits Google's need?
@Last SketchUp and Google SketchUp clearly has different agendas.

I don't think Google SketchUp will be competing about features in the same line as other modeller tools. So comparisons turn into oranges and apples.

Not saying that is good for the users - but just an observation of how I interpret Google SketchUp.

thomthom

@cadmunkey said:

I really needed to move on from 32bit memory space. Looks like I will have to buy a render app that has an external 64bit studio. Any recommendations?

Don't know from the top of my head, but I think that there are several that are considering moving to studio. Think I's seen some chatter about this in the forum. So hopefully the options will expand.

Dan Rathbun

@charly2008 said:

i installed Sketchup 8 free. I copied all my plugins and found four Rubies with Syntax errors.

Error Loading File balustrade_components.rb
C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/balustrade_components.rb:228: syntax error, unexpected ',', expecting ')'
if (n1.between? (n2 - interval), (n2 + interval))
^Error Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/cd_power_m.rb
...snip...

Listen peepers.. when you see this error: syntax error, unexpected ',', expecting ')'
It means that Ruby 1.8.6 read a method call and mistook the 1st argument that was wrapped in ( ) as the entire argument list. So Ruby wanted to see the end of the line but of course there is a comma that separates arguments. You need to put a ( at the end of the method name, and a ) after the last argument.
For more info See: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=14770&p=267503#p267503
.

Aidus

@thomthom said:

@aidus said:

Why that 3ds Max, Maya , Modo and others allways include something handy and really neede when SU just integrates unneded crap like layout and google earth stuff?

Because it's fits Google's need?
@Last SketchUp and Google SketchUp clearly has different agendas.

I don't think Google SketchUp will be competing about features in the same line as other modeller tools. So comparisons turn into oranges and apples.

Not saying that is good for the users - but just an observation of how I interpret Google SketchUp.

And that's sketchups problem. From now sketchup is not for me. That's really sad.

Vicspa

Big time wait,....big time disappointment.

bmike

@aidus said:

And that's sketchups problem. From now sketchup is not for me. That's really sad.

Sad for who?